We run a strand to each dwelling once we get into a cluster of homes. Cabinet mounted splitters. Then later we can do active to each home if we want to add electronics at the cabinet locations.

-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Radunz
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Planet MGSW-28240F

Yes, I agree.
The big reason for looking at GPON in my case is saving fibers out to the
country and not needing remote hardware in the middle.  If I can use 2
strands to feed a subdivision that is 2 miles away, instead of using
24/48/or 96 strands,  I can more than double/triple the fiber footprint
for the same cost and not have costly switches/optics in remote
enclosures.  If I was only running to MDUs active would be great.  The
whole reason I started looking at GPON was that guys here on the lists
have said the GPON hardware is no more costly than the active equipment.
If that's true GPON would save a ton on the fiber plant side of things.


That's fully retarded...  The great thing about doing active-ethernet vs.
any form of GPON or EPON is the much larger set of available equipment.
Not
everything you can use for active-E as necessarily designed or marketed
for
residential services, and that's a good thing.

GPON and EPON equipment vendors still seem like they only want to sell to
huge carriers that will commit themselves to getting married to a platform
for ten years, and buy a ton of it, not caring that it's proprietary.
Yeah....

Stuff like 48-port 1000BaseT blades for routers you can install in MDUs
and
24/48-port SFP switches are used in all kinds of places.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:26 AM, Kevin Radunz <gol...@genevaonline.com>
wrote:

They may be cheap but I inquired and they won't just give you pricing so
I
don't know.
They have to "Customize" a complete solution for you.
Typical big boy sales crap with an immediate NDA before they will talk
with you.
It completely turned me off on using Alphion.


> Ballpark on cheap?
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>
> From: "Gerard Dupont III" <ger...@shelbybb.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:41:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Planet MGSW-28240F
>
> They're cheap and have good support. No random issues like other
vendors
> we've tried. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather use calix or one of the
big
> names, but I can't make the numbers work for the small wireless fed
> residential builds we keep doing.
>
>
> No they don't have a path to NG-PON2 that I'm aware of. I'm not
worried
> about that right now though since we are wirelessly feeding all of the
> neighborhoods.
>
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com >
wrote:
>
>
>
> What's so great about them over other vendors? Also, do they have a
path
> to NG-PON2?
> On Jan 15, 2016 9:09 PM, "Gerard Dupont III" < ger...@shelbybb.com >
> wrote:
>
> <blockquote>
> We're doing Alphion now. We also have Dasan and ZTE systems in place.
Plan
> on migrating them to Alphion sometime this year though.
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net
>
> wrote:
>
> <blockquote>
>
>
>
> What are you using for GPON now?
>
> I’m starting to use some of the higher density 48 port Planet
switches
> in active.
>
> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gerard Dupont
III
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 7:55 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Planet MGSW-28240F
>
> We have a few of those in place for a couple years now in non climate
> controlled cabinets. This will be the third winter. We're just using
cheap
> chinese bidi optics. Some from fiberstore. Customer sides are mostly
> MikroTik 2011 or rb260gs.
>
>
>
> Had some minor issues early on but they were fixed in later l
firmware.
>
>
>
> I can't remember the last time I had to touch them. They've been
solid.
>
>
>
> We've moved to gpon for any new builds or I'd probably still be
installing
> them.
>
>
>
> Gerard
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016, George Skorup < geo...@cbcast.com >
wrote:
> <blockquote>
>
> Derp, I forgot. What do you have on the other end of the ports?
> Routerboards with bidi SFPs? We're not sure what we're going to do on
the
> CPE end yet. It's a multi party venture and those guys haven't made up
> their minds yet, other than each premise will have a pair and they
want
> active ethernet. I mentioned GPON and was told no. So then I said why
not
> do bidi and basically heard crickets. So whatever, I'm just in charge
of
> designing the core network inside their box of requirements.
>
> On 1/15/2016 8:12 PM, George Skorup wrote:
> <blockquote>
>
> Excellent. Thanks.
>
> On 1/15/2016 8:05 PM, Craig Baird wrote:
> <blockquote>
>
> We have this exact switch in service right now with Fiberstore BiDis.
It's
> never given us any trouble.
>
> Craig
>
>
> Quoting George Skorup < geo...@cbcast.com >:
> <blockquote>
>
> I'm working on a fiber project and was wondering if anyone else has
used
> this Planet switch?
> http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=48441
>
> Is Planet picky about SFP modules? I was planing on ordering some
cheap
> single mode modules from Fiber Store to use with this and get the
project
> rolling. Such as:
>
http://www.fs.com/1-25-gbps-gige-1000base-lx-lh-1310nm-20km-dom-industrial-temp-lc-smf-sfp-transceiver-p-37258.html
>
> Already ordered the switch, so we'll see what happens.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> </blockquote>
>
>
> </blockquote>
>
>
> </blockquote>
>
> </blockquote>
>
> </blockquote>
>
> </blockquote>
>
>






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