Realistically if you shut me off I would switch to a new provider within a day. I don't know what kind of person would stick around on a ban no matter what the length of time is.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > For those of you who actually do some sort of enforcement, what amount of > time do you ban them for? I figure even at 90 days they will get a new > provider. So I was just going to go with one year. Is that excessive? > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote: > >> You designate an “agent” within your company. I typical register the >> CEO, operations, or someone like that that as the agent. You would have no >> issue registering yourself as the agent. I would recommend you create a >> copyright@ e-mail address and use that as the designated e-mail >> contact. That way you know a request to copyright@ is most likely >> someone following protocol. >> >> It’s like CALEA. Their just needs to be the proper person on file to >> contact, and server due process should it come to that. >> >> Justin Wilson >> j...@mtin.net >> >> --- >> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO >> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth >> >> http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman >> >> On Feb 2, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I really have no idea about that. So I need to hire an agent, and then >> ignore all but the requests that come to me from that agent? >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote: >> >>> The biggest thing I use in a determination is did they send it to the >>> Registered Copyright Agent on file? You do have one correct? :-) >>> http://copyright.gov/onlinesp/ >>> >>> If you have one, and it’s not sent to that agent, it’s not a real >>> request IMHO. >>> >>> >>> Justin Wilson >>> j...@mtin.net >>> >>> --- >>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO >>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth >>> >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >>> >>> It can't charge the copyright holder, but could it charge to company >>> sending out the notices if they aren't the CRH? :) >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This has been discussed before, the DMCA safe harbor doesn't allow the >>> provider to charge the copyright holder for this. >>> >>> On 2/2/2016 12:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> >>> >>> That's going to end up in a big mess of a lawsuit eventually. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Haha! >>> >>> >>> >>> If it’s against your AUP, make sure you have a clause in there that says >>> you >>> charge per incident. >>> >>> >>> >>> Then go ahead and charge the customer. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as >>> well >>> try to keep them, but make it costly. >>> >>> >>> >>> If they don’t pay it, then they are off. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I think. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf >>> Of That One Guy /sarcasm >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:57 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee >>> >>> >>> >>> Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a fight with customers >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What do you thing about charging a fee every time that a customer gets a >>> DMCA takedown notice. These notices take time to track down and follow >>> up >>> on. If we charged $20 every time it would make it not really worth it to >>> pirate that $10 movie. I would think that it should be legal, so long as >>> we >>> add it to our customer agreement. Anyone ever thought about this? Right >>> now we pass on 5 of them and then make them find a new provider. It >>> seems >>> like they would be less likely to hit 5 if they had to pay $20 for each >>> one. >>> We really don't want these guys on our network anyway, so no sweat if >>> they >>> just cancel. Is anyone out there charging customers a fee for these? I >>> know most of you just ignore them, but we like passing them on, as it >>> lowers >>> our overall usage. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as >>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
