we have one thats on a 10 dollar rate, they paid an install fee, and the
bill is usage based


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I like your solution where both are utilized, so it’s not really inactive
> backup.
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>
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> Not many providers want to hand off an unused line/connection for a
> discount.
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>
>
> So it’s better to just pay for both and utilize both knowing you have
> overhead and opportunity to continue if one fails.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 4:49 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling Redudant or Backup (Failover) connections
>
>
>
> Definitely agree on the redundancy portion … for costs, with exception of
> LTE, we would look primarily to bond the connections and utilize the 2 or 3
> connections at same time. The Multapplied solution does this very well with
> different sizes of connections involved, and the failover in event of an
> outage is pretty seamless.  I tested it personally with a Skype for
> Business call nailed up on a lab unit and randomly knocked down connections
> and never dropped or was even noticeable….
>
>
>
> The pricing part, not my area, but I can’t see discounting the connections
> with our approach.  The DSL or the cable modem still have noticeable costs
> to deliver + the cost of CPE, bonder hardware, aggregation servers etc.
> The customer gets more speed and pretty solid redundancy out of the
> package.  So it’s being positioned really as ‘diversified’ connectivity
> more than just a backup solution in our case.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 9:11 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling Redudant or Backup (Failover) connections
>
>
>
> If these are $70 a month accounts for internet, then backup could be half
> that at $30 a month, especially if it’s managed.
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> If these are $500 accounts, then backup might be $100 a month.
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> In the real world, you pay for two circuits.
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> So you are doing them a favor by cutting the dual circuit costs
> significantly, AND providing the seamless device/failover/bonding.
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>
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> This would be true provider redundancy, where there are two complete
> separate paths.
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>
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> If they aren’t completely separate, then maybe less, because if your stuff
> goes down in a major way, they are still completely down.
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 7:04 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling Redudant or Backup (Failover) connections
>
>
>
> Yeah I should qualify what we are doing … the main product will be DSL +
> LTE backup … the DSL is ours and LTE is via a bulk arrangement with another
> carrier .. or DSL + cable modem (both which we already provide) .. many
> different combinations including fixed wireless + LTE backup etc
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 7:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling Redudant or Backup (Failover) connections
>
>
>
> I’ve done it a few times, either I’m primary and have someone elses
> wireless as backup, or our fiber is backup.
>
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> Small accounts we use ASUS routers with dual WAN.
>
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> Seems to work well, and just goes straight to their wireless router, no
> extra equipment.
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> Otherwise we use another dual WAN router.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 2:52 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling Redudant or Backup (Failover) connections
>
>
>
> We are close to launching a product for this kind of scenario … it’s
> actually “bonded” Internet to provide more redundancy to business customers
> – based on the Multapplied solution …
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2016 3:29 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Selling Redudant or Backup (Failover) connections
>
>
>
> Does anyone here market a specific “backup connection” to small businesses
> (non-BGP)?  Here, Comcast has a strong foothold on business connections,
> but they go down occasionally (like anyone else would), so there is an
> opportunity there.  With Cloud based solutions, VoIP solutions, redundancy
> for a business would make sense.
>
>
>
> So the questions would be, what do you charge relative to your normal rate
> for a backup (failover) connection only?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>



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