For the price one could pay for two cloudcores I was able to get a chassis
capable of almost 10Tbps of throughput. I'm okay with that. Oh, and JUNOS >
IOS :P
On Feb 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my experience this usually means there is 10x more used Cisco core
> router gear on the grey market than Cisco.
>
> This is somewhat frustrating as I see a lot fewer m320, t320, t640, t1600,
> mx960 on the marker than I see Cisco ASR and older generation CRS1 stuff.
> On Feb 27, 2016 5:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Had nothing to do with the actually vendors, came down to supply and
>> demand on the gray market.
>> On Feb 27, 2016 7:02 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Juniper doesn’t like to lose deals to Brocade ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:41 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I almost ended up with 4 MLXe-8's a few months ago, but ended up getting
>>> a killer deal on some MX960s instead.
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2016 1:37 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you go with Brocade, the MLXe is the lowest line that will give you
>>> full MPLS with the number of ports you are requiring 10 or 40 or 100.  I
>>> talked to them yesterday about where their line is between CER and MLXe.  I
>>> was told possibly early next year, but no specifics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want me to price one or two for you, let me know.  We just did a
>>> big order of CERs for Fusion, so we are on their radar :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>
>>> North Central Tower
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Windstream. I assume it's running on the same DTN-X platform that their
>>> 100G is running on, which should do coherent 40G.
>>>
>>> I know it will depend on what they're using and obviously how proud they
>>> are of it. I'm just here to talk about the switches on the ends and not
>>> what's in the middle. I can't make an informed decision without having both
>>> pieces and in due time I'll have the transport cost piece.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:05:18 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Whos long haul is it?  It will depend on what they are using on their
>>> end.  The cheapest solution is multi-10g waves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>
>>> North Central Tower
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> It would be getting waves on someone else's long haul network.
>>>
>>> 10G is a slam dunk over 10x 1G. Just checking out the scene for 40G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:25:12 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>>>
>>> Depends on the distance, is this for WAN over a mile or two?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> QSFP+ modules and switches can be cheap, but I agree that long distance
>>> bonding of 4x10 SFP+ modules is cheaper.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:22 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i think is more cost effective to bond 4 10g?
>>>
>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Which means that 40Gb WAN kin is now a steal :)
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 40g is for lan, wan has jumped to 100g
>>>
>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:37 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on the
>>> hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though something
>>> that does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something with TRILL
>>> or a TRILL derivative would be nice too.
>>>
>>> I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest
>>> priorities.
>>>
>>> It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus 9k
>>> that we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality would
>>> be nice.
>>>
>>> I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available
>>> cost wise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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