Of course. If you're buying a used routing platform and don't educate yourself on the generations of fabric and line cards, you are in for a bad time.
Eg: know before buying what you can and cannot do with 6700-series cards in a 6509e, or the difference between a t640 fpc2 vs FPC3. Or the multiple generations of cards for the asr9006/9010. On Feb 27, 2016 11:43 AM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> wrote: > As I always say, if you are looking at refurbished gear and need a full > routing table, you really need to pay attention to the specific part > numbers. There is a lot of junk on Ebay. LOL > > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > [email protected] > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I almost ended up with 4 MLXe-8's a few months ago, but ended up getting >> a killer deal on some MX960s instead. >> On Feb 27, 2016 1:37 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> If you go with Brocade, the MLXe is the lowest line that will give you >>> full MPLS with the number of ports you are requiring 10 or 40 or 100. I >>> talked to them yesterday about where their line is between CER and MLXe. I >>> was told possibly early next year, but no specifics. >>> >>> If you want me to price one or two for you, let me know. We just did a >>> big order of CERs for Fusion, so we are on their radar :) >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> North Central Tower >>> [email protected] >>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Windstream. I assume it's running on the same DTN-X platform that their >>>> 100G is running on, which should do coherent 40G. >>>> >>>> I know it will depend on what they're using and obviously how proud >>>> they are of it. I'm just here to talk about the switches on the ends and >>>> not what's in the middle. I can't make an informed decision without having >>>> both pieces and in due time I'll have the transport cost piece. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:05:18 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Whos long haul is it? It will depend on what they are using on their >>>> end. The cheapest solution is multi-10g waves. >>>> >>>> >>>> Erich Kaiser >>>> North Central Tower >>>> [email protected] >>>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It would be getting waves on someone else's long haul network. >>>>> >>>>> 10G is a slam dunk over 10x 1G. Just checking out the scene for 40G. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:25:12 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>>>> >>>>> Depends on the distance, is this for WAN over a mile or two? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> QSFP+ modules and switches can be cheap, but I agree that long >>>>> distance bonding of 4x10 SFP+ modules is cheaper. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:22 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> i think is more cost effective to bond 4 10g? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Which means that 40Gb WAN kin is now a steal :) >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 40g is for lan, wan has jumped to 100g >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:37 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on >>>>> the hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though >>>>> something that does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something >>>>> with TRILL or a TRILL derivative would be nice too. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest >>>>> priorities. >>>>> >>>>> It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus >>>>> 9k that we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality >>>>> would be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available >>>>> cost wise. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >
