Had nothing to do with the actually vendors, came down to supply and demand
on the gray market.
On Feb 27, 2016 7:02 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Juniper doesn’t like to lose deals to Brocade ;)
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G
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>
>
> I almost ended up with 4 MLXe-8's a few months ago, but ended up getting a
> killer deal on some MX960s instead.
>
> On Feb 27, 2016 1:37 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> If you go with Brocade, the MLXe is the lowest line that will give you
> full MPLS with the number of ports you are requiring 10 or 40 or 100.  I
> talked to them yesterday about where their line is between CER and MLXe.  I
> was told possibly early next year, but no specifics.
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> If you want me to price one or two for you, let me know.  We just did a
> big order of CERs for Fusion, so we are on their radar :)
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> Erich Kaiser
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> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Windstream. I assume it's running on the same DTN-X platform that their
> 100G is running on, which should do coherent 40G.
>
> I know it will depend on what they're using and obviously how proud they
> are of it. I'm just here to talk about the switches on the ends and not
> what's in the middle. I can't make an informed decision without having both
> pieces and in due time I'll have the transport cost piece.
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> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:05:18 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>
> Mike,
>
> Whos long haul is it?  It will depend on what they are using on their
> end.  The cheapest solution is multi-10g waves.
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> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> It would be getting waves on someone else's long haul network.
>
> 10G is a slam dunk over 10x 1G. Just checking out the scene for 40G.
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> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:25:12 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>
> Depends on the distance, is this for WAN over a mile or two?
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>
>
> QSFP+ modules and switches can be cheap, but I agree that long distance
> bonding of 4x10 SFP+ modules is cheaper.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:22 AM
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>
>
>
> i think is more cost effective to bond 4 10g?
>
> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
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> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> Which means that 40Gb WAN kin is now a steal :)
>
> On Feb 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 40g is for lan, wan has jumped to 100g
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> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
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> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:37 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on the
> hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though something
> that does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something with TRILL
> or a TRILL derivative would be nice too.
>
> I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest
> priorities.
>
> It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus 9k
> that we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality would
> be nice.
>
> I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available
> cost wise.
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