In my experience this usually means there is 10x more used Cisco core router gear on the grey market than Cisco.
This is somewhat frustrating as I see a lot fewer m320, t320, t640, t1600, mx960 on the marker than I see Cisco ASR and older generation CRS1 stuff. On Feb 27, 2016 5:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote: > Had nothing to do with the actually vendors, came down to supply and > demand on the gray market. > On Feb 27, 2016 7:02 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Juniper doesn’t like to lose deals to Brocade ;) >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:41 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G >> >> >> >> I almost ended up with 4 MLXe-8's a few months ago, but ended up getting >> a killer deal on some MX960s instead. >> >> On Feb 27, 2016 1:37 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> If you go with Brocade, the MLXe is the lowest line that will give you >> full MPLS with the number of ports you are requiring 10 or 40 or 100. I >> talked to them yesterday about where their line is between CER and MLXe. I >> was told possibly early next year, but no specifics. >> >> >> >> If you want me to price one or two for you, let me know. We just did a >> big order of CERs for Fusion, so we are on their radar :) >> >> >> >> Erich Kaiser >> >> North Central Tower >> >> [email protected] >> >> Office: 630-621-4804 >> >> Cell: 630-777-9291 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Windstream. I assume it's running on the same DTN-X platform that their >> 100G is running on, which should do coherent 40G. >> >> I know it will depend on what they're using and obviously how proud they >> are of it. I'm just here to talk about the switches on the ends and not >> what's in the middle. I can't make an informed decision without having both >> pieces and in due time I'll have the transport cost piece. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:05:18 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >> >> Mike, >> >> Whos long haul is it? It will depend on what they are using on their >> end. The cheapest solution is multi-10g waves. >> >> >> >> >> Erich Kaiser >> >> North Central Tower >> >> [email protected] >> >> Office: 630-621-4804 >> >> Cell: 630-777-9291 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It would be getting waves on someone else's long haul network. >> >> 10G is a slam dunk over 10x 1G. Just checking out the scene for 40G. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:25:12 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >> >> Depends on the distance, is this for WAN over a mile or two? >> >> >> >> QSFP+ modules and switches can be cheap, but I agree that long distance >> bonding of 4x10 SFP+ modules is cheaper. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:22 AM >> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G >> >> >> >> i think is more cost effective to bond 4 10g? >> >> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Which means that 40Gb WAN kin is now a steal :) >> >> On Feb 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> 40g is for lan, wan has jumped to 100g >> >> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:37 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on the >> hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though something >> that does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something with TRILL >> or a TRILL derivative would be nice too. >> >> I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest >> priorities. >> >> It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus 9k >> that we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality would >> be nice. >> >> I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available >> cost wise. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
