> I would agree since most of their budget goes to abortion. Abortion is the
> law of the land period, that doesn't mean I want to pay for it.
This is not really a hot button of mine, but I don’t think the facts support
that statement.
Looking it up, 3% of Planned Parenthood services are abortion. That is 3% of
services, not 3% of budget, but it’s pretty clear the statement “most of their
budget goes to abortion” is not even close to correct.
Hyde Amendment prohibits federal funding of abortion, so supposedly you are not
paying for it.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 6:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016, 5:02 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
His stances:
Gay marriage is wrong
I agree, but I think it should be allowed since it is a function of government
and I don't want government making choices concerning religion.
He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple
Neither do I. Another religious based issue. But I have no issue with it if
done by government since I don't want them making decisions based on religious
reasons.
Defund planned parenthood
I would agree since most of their budget goes to abortion. Abortion is the law
of the land period, that doesn't mean I want to pay for it.
Raising corporate tax is bad
The US has one of the highest corporate tax rates. Besides, don't you know that
corporations really don't pay taxes. It may make you feel better to tax them,
but alon costs are passed on to consumers.
Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles.
And your solution to the the issue of juvenile crime is what? I don't have an
answer but this is a pretty common one.
Wants to drill in ANWR
Yea
Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy.
Wind farms are a scam. Nuclear is a much more efficient solution.
Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees.
Finally, someone says no to the codeled federal employees who already get to
much for to little work.
Votes for PATRIOT act over and over
No arguement with your issue there.
Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us citizens
If we are talking about meets data in phone calls I agree with it. Very helpful
after an event to find out to whom one has been talking.
Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child healthcare
With what else attached?
"Let's build a fence!"
Let's build something
Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received hospital
treatment
Huh... Interesting
Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me.
Much of what you have an issues with are religious issues. Or at least they are
for me. We can disagree, but like most, I am unlikely to change my deeply held
religious beliefs.
On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Hey, I said I liked him. Just not full on man crush.
I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed. There were
some missing pages where magic happened to balance the budget. Seemed like the
same old voodoo economics.
So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin? At least Putin is supposedly
an 8th degree black belt. He would probably take care of the protester
himself. If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of the world, I’m not so
sure. I think McCain could take him in a fair fight. Hell, Bernie could
probably take him. I was never fond of Nixon, but the photo of the “kitchen
debate” with Khrushchev is a treasure.
http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev
From: CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan
I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he appeared on the
national stage. Very impressed with him. Could almost call him my "man
crush". I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about him Ken.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Hohhof
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More
AfterChicago Violence
I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with them,
I'm
not convinced it's about left or right. If I had to single out one
person
as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it would be
Mitch
McConnell. All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about their
own
power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch.
I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, but I
like
what he has said since being elected Speaker. I would like to see if
they
are just words, or if he would translate them into actions. I don't
think
we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered him
irrelevant. And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with someone
actually interested in governing. I wonder what conservative goals could
have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to make
Obama
fail no matter how much damage it causes. Tort reform? Modifications to
Obamacare? Fix sequestration? Tax reform? Immigration reform? Mitch
doesn't care. Mitch cares about Mitch. That's the problem with the
establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and staying
in
power, they don't even pretend to do their job. And let me be clear, I'm
not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just McConnell
is
the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I feel he
is
giving me the finger.
I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, but I
don't
think we'll find out.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More
After
Chicago Violence
IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the right.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. Everybody's
idea
> of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a deal.
