The videos were edited...guys who did it facing charges in Houston. That
said I am anti abortion.  As a Catholic but more as a caring human being.

Many gay couples are good parents...and some stay together longer than
traditional couples.... we need better parenting.....its hard for parents
to compete with all the electronics that our children can see and hear.  I
get upset that one of grandsons is allowed to watch Walking Dead crap.  He
is 4....when they are here I make sure they don't watch crap like
that...even Nick has stupid cartoons.   I digress.... too many people
having kids that have no idea of what it takes....

Why dont  you GOPers get Ryan to run?  Oh wait... he said no!    Too
easy....sorry.. OK how about Mitt?  Oops my bad..
On Mar 13, 2016 4:41 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

>
> Yah, i'm kind of like Chuck here.
>
> I don't care about gay marriage.  I'm not gay, I know a handful of gay
> people.  Not my cup of tea but the government doesn't have any right
> telling them what they can or can't do.
>
> Same with adoption for a gay couple - shut up gov'mt.   Now, I'm not so
> sure on that.  When I was growing up there were few gay couples who had
> "come out" and we thought if the girl had a different last name than her
> mommy we thought that was odd.  Quite a bit different now but it could
> still screw with a kids head in terms of "traditional marriage".
>
> It would be hard to NOT state that traditional marriage has gone to hell
> in this country.  But then again, so many "traditional" things have gone to
> hell.  How many women stay at home and take care of the family while dad
> goes to work?
>
> I am in favor of defunding planned parenthood.  The videos pretty much got
> to me.  It's MY TAX DOLLARS.  Defund it.  There are plenty of other
> non-government-funded entities who can do that work.
>
> Any tax is bad :)
>
> I'm going to stop there, i will get in trouble... lol
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan
>
> His stances:
> Gay marriage is wrong
> He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple
> Defund planned parenthood
> Raising corporate tax is bad
> Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles.
> Wants to drill in ANWR
> Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy.
> Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees.
> Votes for PATRIOT act over and over
> Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us citizens
> Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child healthcare
> "Let's build a fence!"
> Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received hospital
> treatment
>
> Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me.
> On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, I said I liked him.  Just not full on man crush.
>>
>> I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed.  There
>> were some missing pages where magic happened to balance the budget.  Seemed
>> like the same old voodoo economics.
>>
>> So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin?  At least Putin is
>> supposedly an 8th degree black belt.  He would probably take care of the
>> protester himself.  If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of the world,
>> I’m not so sure.  I think McCain could take him in a fair fight.  Hell,
>> Bernie could probably take him.  I was never fond of Nixon, but the photo
>> of the “kitchen debate” with Khrushchev is a treasure.
>> http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Paul Ryan
>>
>>
>> I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he appeared on
>> the national stage.  Very impressed with him.  Could almost call him my
>> "man crush".   I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about him
>> Ken.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More
>> AfterChicago Violence
>>
>> I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with them,
>> I'm
>> not convinced it's about left or right.  If I had to single out one
>> person
>> as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it would be
>> Mitch
>> McConnell.  All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about their
>> own
>> power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch.
>>
>> I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, but I
>> like
>> what he has said since being elected Speaker.  I would like to see if
>> they
>> are just words, or if he would translate them into actions.  I don't
>> think
>> we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered him
>> irrelevant.  And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with someone
>> actually interested in governing.  I wonder what conservative goals could
>> have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to make
>> Obama
>> fail no matter how much damage it causes.  Tort reform?  Modifications to
>> Obamacare?  Fix sequestration?  Tax reform?  Immigration reform?  Mitch
>> doesn't care.  Mitch cares about Mitch.  That's the problem with the
>> establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and staying
>> in
>> power, they don't even pretend to do their job.  And let me be clear, I'm
>> not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just McConnell
>> is
>> the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I feel he
>> is
>> giving me the finger.
>>
>> I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, but I
>> don't
>> think we'll find out.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bill Prince
>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More
>> After
>> Chicago Violence
>>
>> IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the right.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> > Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. Everybody's
>> idea
>> > of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a deal.
>>
>>

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