Why does any church need to be involved with reproductive care, contraception, or abortion?
Those are medical issues. On Mar 13, 2016 6:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > > Actually, my belief is here in the deep south we have a church on every > corner. Let the churches handle it....they are more than capable. > > My tax dollars aren't needed for this. (or many other things) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 6:18 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan > > What many people who lose sleep over Planned Parenthood are actually upset > about is they offer birth control. Some people obsess about poor people > having sex without the punishment of getting pregnant. See this if you > forgot: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh%E2%80%93Sandra_Fluke_controversy > > I don’t understand how you can be extremely anti-abortion yet also > extremely anti-contraception. Less unwanted pregnancies = less abortions. > Which is the lesser evil? > > I think it comes down to some people are obsessed with sex, especially > “other” people having sex. #nosyneighbors #getalife > > > *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:48 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan > > > Did you research that video? You should. It's not what you think. > On Mar 13, 2016 5:41 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: > >> >> Yah, i'm kind of like Chuck here. >> >> I don't care about gay marriage. I'm not gay, I know a handful of gay >> people. Not my cup of tea but the government doesn't have any right >> telling them what they can or can't do. >> >> Same with adoption for a gay couple - shut up gov'mt. Now, I'm not so >> sure on that. When I was growing up there were few gay couples who had >> "come out" and we thought if the girl had a different last name than her >> mommy we thought that was odd. Quite a bit different now but it could >> still screw with a kids head in terms of "traditional marriage". >> >> It would be hard to NOT state that traditional marriage has gone to hell >> in this country. But then again, so many "traditional" things have gone to >> hell. How many women stay at home and take care of the family while dad >> goes to work? >> >> I am in favor of defunding planned parenthood. The videos pretty much >> got to me. It's MY TAX DOLLARS. Defund it. There are plenty of other >> non-government-funded entities who can do that work. >> >> Any tax is bad :) >> >> I'm going to stop there, i will get in trouble... lol >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:02 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >> >> His stances: >> Gay marriage is wrong >> He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple >> Defund planned parenthood >> Raising corporate tax is bad >> Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles. >> Wants to drill in ANWR >> Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy. >> Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees. >> Votes for PATRIOT act over and over >> Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us citizens >> Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child healthcare >> "Let's build a fence!" >> Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received >> hospital treatment >> >> Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me. >> On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey, I said I liked him. Just not full on man crush. >>> >>> I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed. There >>> were some missing pages where magic happened to balance the budget. Seemed >>> like the same old voodoo economics. >>> >>> So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin? At least Putin is >>> supposedly an 8th degree black belt. He would probably take care of the >>> protester himself. If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of the world, >>> I’m not so sure. I think McCain could take him in a fair fight. Hell, >>> Bernie could probably take him. I was never fond of Nixon, but the photo >>> of the “kitchen debate” with Khrushchev is a treasure. >>> http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>> >>> >>> I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he appeared on >>> the national stage. Very impressed with him. Could almost call him my >>> "man crush". I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about him >>> Ken. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More >>> AfterChicago Violence >>> >>> I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with them, >>> I'm >>> not convinced it's about left or right. If I had to single out one >>> person >>> as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it would be >>> Mitch >>> McConnell. All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about their >>> own >>> power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch. >>> >>> I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, but I >>> like >>> what he has said since being elected Speaker. I would like to see if >>> they >>> are just words, or if he would translate them into actions. I don't >>> think >>> we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered him >>> irrelevant. And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with someone >>> actually interested in governing. I wonder what conservative goals >>> could >>> have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to make >>> Obama >>> fail no matter how much damage it causes. Tort reform? Modifications >>> to >>> Obamacare? Fix sequestration? Tax reform? Immigration reform? Mitch >>> doesn't care. Mitch cares about Mitch. That's the problem with the >>> establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and >>> staying in >>> power, they don't even pretend to do their job. And let me be clear, >>> I'm >>> not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just >>> McConnell is >>> the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I feel he >>> is >>> giving me the finger. >>> >>> I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, but I >>> don't >>> think we'll find out. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bill Prince >>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More >>> After >>> Chicago Violence >>> >>> IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the right. >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>> > Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. Everybody's >>> idea >>> > of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a >>> deal. >>> >>>
