These are bad things???

I don’t care about Gays one way or the other.  Sick of the subject.  Live and 
let live.  
I don’t support abortion.  I believe it is murdering a baby.  I understand 
others think it is cluster of non sentient cells...
I don’t want corporate taxes just get passed along to customers.  I don’t see 
this as a solution.
I don’t support more sentencing and prosecution of anyone.  That does not seem 
to help.
I would drill the bejesus out of ANWR.
I love my tax credits on my renewable energy.
4 weeks of leave ... meh... I guess if you are a guvmnt worker OK, just don’t 
force me to grant the same thing.
Patriot act does not bug me. (pun intended)
I don’t care if you tap my phones, I don’t say anything worth listening.  
Child healthcare and healthcare in general should be single payer socialism in 
my opinion.  
No fence, more worker visa initiatives.  
I wouldn’t report or deport illegals either.

So, what does that make me?

(What is his stance on gun control?)

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan

His stances:
Gay marriage is wrong
He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple
Defund planned parenthood
Raising corporate tax is bad
Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles.
Wants to drill in ANWR
Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy.
Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees.
Votes for PATRIOT act over and over
Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us citizens
Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child healthcare
"Let's build a fence!"
Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received hospital 
treatment

Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me.

On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

  Hey, I said I liked him.  Just not full on man crush.

  I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed.  There were 
some missing pages where magic happened to balance the budget.  Seemed like the 
same old voodoo economics.

  So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin?  At least Putin is supposedly 
an 8th degree black belt.  He would probably take care of the protester 
himself.  If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of the world, I’m not so 
sure.  I think McCain could take him in a fair fight.  Hell, Bernie could 
probably take him.  I was never fond of Nixon, but the photo of the “kitchen 
debate” with Khrushchev is a treasure.
  http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev



  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan


  I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he appeared on the 
national stage.  Very impressed with him.  Could almost call him my "man 
crush".   I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about him Ken.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ken Hohhof 
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More 
AfterChicago Violence

    I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with them, I'm 
    not convinced it's about left or right.  If I had to single out one person 
    as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it would be 
Mitch 
    McConnell.  All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about their 
own 
    power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch.

    I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, but I 
like 
    what he has said since being elected Speaker.  I would like to see if they 
    are just words, or if he would translate them into actions.  I don't think 
    we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered him 
    irrelevant.  And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with someone 
    actually interested in governing.  I wonder what conservative goals could 
    have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to make Obama 
    fail no matter how much damage it causes.  Tort reform?  Modifications to 
    Obamacare?  Fix sequestration?  Tax reform?  Immigration reform?  Mitch 
    doesn't care.  Mitch cares about Mitch.  That's the problem with the 
    establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and staying 
in 
    power, they don't even pretend to do their job.  And let me be clear, I'm 
    not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just McConnell 
is 
    the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I feel he is 
    giving me the finger.

    I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, but I don't 
    think we'll find out.


    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Bill Prince
    Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More After 
    Chicago Violence

    IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the right.

    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
    > Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. Everybody's idea 
    > of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a deal.

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