I dont like grinning mexicans, you cant trust them. If theyre grinning
theyre going to make you eat something very hot. Never trust a grinning
mexican, ever

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> Hahaha.  Would that be the iZombie caucus?  It’s amazing that more people
> voted for Kennedy than were actually registered in 1969.  I think the same
> caucus is active in Philadelphia also.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:01 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>
>
>
> Here in Chicago, we also accept death certificates as voter ID.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:54 AM
>
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>
>
>
> True! and just to be clear, I have nothing against Mexicans (what I said
> applies equally to any non-US citizens), nor do I particularly care about
> voter ID laws one way or the other... but I do think a lot of people that
> vote don't take it as seriously as they should, and I don't see anything
> wrong with making people actually put a little effort into it (such as
> proving they actually do have the right to vote).
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Prolly more rights than you if they live in the Western states that used
> to be Mexico.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:39 AM
>
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>
>
>
> Well... I'm all for keeping Mexicans from voting (as in citizens of
> Mexico)... but if we're talking US citizens of Mexican descent, they
> obviously have every bit as much right to vote as I do, whether I agree
> with who they vote for or not... and I don't know anyone that thinks
> otherwise.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all
> racist.
>
> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just fine
> with that.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>
> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me
> they require one of the following:
>
>    - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety
>    (DPS)
>    - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
>    - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
>    - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS
>    - United States military identification card containing the person’s
>    photograph
>    - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s
>    photograph
>    - United States passport
>
> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see
> anything inconsistent there.
>
> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there
> is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for
> the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to
> get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I
> really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a
> citizen to be eligible to vote.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of
> gerrymandering.  They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super
> conservative "republican" could ever win.
>
>
>
> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a lot
> of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%.  All the
> voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal
> "poll tax".  Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you
> need to produce costs money.  Also in texas you can use your hunting or
> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was
> issued by a state school.
>
>
>
> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make
> America great?!?!
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> "conservative minority" HAH!
>
> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while indeed
> a minority fight for or against most things.
>
> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and
> illegal immigration.
>
> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois,
> they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks.
>
> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the
> most important thing be any different?
>
> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical
> conversation.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>
> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a
> non-issue...PERIOD!
>
>
>
> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked
> Italians.  Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation  was the
> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico)
> He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the
> Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's)
>
>
>
> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
> mentality.  America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants.  Those who have
> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans
> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
>
>
>
> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of being a
> progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this country
> being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see their
> neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to
> gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win.  Social
> security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the
> old, sick and poor from dying on the streets.
>
>
>
> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and
> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
>
>
>
> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!?  Seriously WTF?
>
>
>
> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
> million pieces...you reap what you sow.
>
>
>
> America is already fucking great!
>
>
>
> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American
> politicians act this poorly.
>
>
>
> 2 cents
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front.
>
>
>
> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The negotiation is
> just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts this process and is
> bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or
> thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made.
> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and
> having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get
> people’s attention.
>
>
>
> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.  Is it
> helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.  There IS
> NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.  Trump is
> crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s
> benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many
> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried
> in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above.
>
>
>
> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.  But, I *still
> believe in America* and its strength and there is been absolutely nothing
> done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only further
> dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented level
> historically.
>
>
>
> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to
> Mexico - WSJ
>
>
>
> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking
> idiot..oh yes I did
>
>
> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
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