Hahahahaha

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I dont like grinning mexicans, you cant trust them. If theyre grinning
> theyre going to make you eat something very hot. Never trust a grinning
> mexican, ever
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hahaha.  Would that be the iZombie caucus?  It’s amazing that more people
>> voted for Kennedy than were actually registered in 1969.  I think the same
>> caucus is active in Philadelphia also.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:01 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Here in Chicago, we also accept death certificates as voter ID.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:54 AM
>>
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>>
>>
>> True! and just to be clear, I have nothing against Mexicans (what I said
>> applies equally to any non-US citizens), nor do I particularly care about
>> voter ID laws one way or the other... but I do think a lot of people that
>> vote don't take it as seriously as they should, and I don't see anything
>> wrong with making people actually put a little effort into it (such as
>> proving they actually do have the right to vote).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Prolly more rights than you if they live in the Western states that used
>> to be Mexico.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:39 AM
>>
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Well... I'm all for keeping Mexicans from voting (as in citizens of
>> Mexico)... but if we're talking US citizens of Mexican descent, they
>> obviously have every bit as much right to vote as I do, whether I agree
>> with who they vote for or not... and I don't know anyone that thinks
>> otherwise.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all
>> racist.
>>
>> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just
>> fine with that.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
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>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM
>>
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me
>> they require one of the following:
>>
>>    - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public
>>    Safety (DPS)
>>    - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
>>    - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
>>    - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS
>>    - United States military identification card containing the person’s
>>    photograph
>>    - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s
>>    photograph
>>    - United States passport
>>
>> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see
>> anything inconsistent there.
>>
>> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there
>> is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for
>> the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to
>> get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I
>> really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a
>> citizen to be eligible to vote.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of
>> gerrymandering.  They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super
>> conservative "republican" could ever win.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a
>> lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%.  All
>> the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal
>> "poll tax".  Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you
>> need to produce costs money.  Also in texas you can use your hunting or
>> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was
>> issued by a state school.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make
>> America great?!?!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> "conservative minority" HAH!
>>
>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while indeed
>> a minority fight for or against most things.
>>
>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and
>> illegal immigration.
>>
>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois,
>> they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks.
>>
>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the
>> most important thing be any different?
>>
>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical
>> conversation.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
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>>
>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a
>> non-issue...PERIOD!
>>
>>
>>
>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked
>> Italians.  Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation  was the
>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico)
>> He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the
>> Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's)
>>
>>
>>
>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
>> mentality.  America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants.  Those who have
>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans
>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of being
>> a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this country
>> being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see their
>> neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to
>> gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win.  Social
>> security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the
>> old, sick and poor from dying on the streets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and
>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
>>
>>
>>
>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!?  Seriously WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
>> million pieces...you reap what you sow.
>>
>>
>>
>> America is already fucking great!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American
>> politicians act this poorly.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2 cents
>>
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>
>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front.
>>
>>
>>
>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The negotiation
>> is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts this process and is
>> bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or
>> thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made.
>> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and
>> having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get
>> people’s attention.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.  Is
>> it helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.  There
>> IS NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.  Trump is
>> crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s
>> benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many
>> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried
>> in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above.
>>
>>
>>
>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.  But, I 
>> *still
>> believe in America* and its strength and there is been absolutely
>> nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only
>> further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented
>> level historically.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
>> to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>>
>>
>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking
>> idiot..oh yes I did
>>
>>
>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
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> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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