Hahahahaha On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I dont like grinning mexicans, you cant trust them. If theyre grinning > theyre going to make you eat something very hot. Never trust a grinning > mexican, ever > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote: > >> Hahaha. Would that be the iZombie caucus? It’s amazing that more people >> voted for Kennedy than were actually registered in 1969. I think the same >> caucus is active in Philadelphia also. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:01 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> >> >> Here in Chicago, we also accept death certificates as voter ID. >> >> >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:54 AM >> >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> >> >> True! and just to be clear, I have nothing against Mexicans (what I said >> applies equally to any non-US citizens), nor do I particularly care about >> voter ID laws one way or the other... but I do think a lot of people that >> vote don't take it as seriously as they should, and I don't see anything >> wrong with making people actually put a little effort into it (such as >> proving they actually do have the right to vote). >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> Prolly more rights than you if they live in the Western states that used >> to be Mexico. >> >> >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:39 AM >> >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> >> >> Well... I'm all for keeping Mexicans from voting (as in citizens of >> Mexico)... but if we're talking US citizens of Mexican descent, they >> obviously have every bit as much right to vote as I do, whether I agree >> with who they vote for or not... and I don't know anyone that thinks >> otherwise. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all >> racist. >> >> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just >> fine with that. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM >> >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me >> they require one of the following: >> >> - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public >> Safety (DPS) >> - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS >> - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS >> - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS >> - United States military identification card containing the person’s >> photograph >> - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s >> photograph >> - United States passport >> >> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see >> anything inconsistent there. >> >> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there >> is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for >> the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to >> get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I >> really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a >> citizen to be eligible to vote. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >> >> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of >> gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super >> conservative "republican" could ever win. >> >> >> >> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a >> lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All >> the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal >> "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you >> need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or >> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was >> issued by a state school. >> >> >> >> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make >> America great?!?! >> >> >> >> -Sean >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> "conservative minority" HAH! >> >> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while indeed >> a minority fight for or against most things. >> >> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and >> illegal immigration. >> >> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois, >> they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks. >> >> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the >> most important thing be any different? >> >> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical >> conversation. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a >> non-issue...PERIOD! >> >> >> >> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked >> Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was the >> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans >> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico) >> He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the >> Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) >> >> >> >> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" >> mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have >> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans >> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. >> >> >> >> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of being >> a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this country >> being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see their >> neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to >> gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social >> security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the >> old, sick and poor from dying on the streets. >> >> >> >> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and >> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society. >> >> >> >> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF? >> >> >> >> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a >> million pieces...you reap what you sow. >> >> >> >> America is already fucking great! >> >> >> >> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American >> politicians act this poorly. >> >> >> >> 2 cents >> >> >> >> -Sean >> >> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >> Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front. >> >> >> >> However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The negotiation >> is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this process and is >> bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or >> thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made. >> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and >> having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get >> people’s attention. >> >> >> >> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course not. Is >> it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely. There >> IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. Trump is >> crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s >> benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many >> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried >> in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above. >> >> >> >> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject. But, I >> *still >> believe in America* and its strength and there is been absolutely >> nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only >> further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented >> level historically. >> >> >> >> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan” >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers >> to Mexico - WSJ >> >> >> >> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking >> idiot..oh yes I did >> >> >> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >