Also Wisconsin's voter ID law worked as intended to suppress the student and black vote.
Yay 'Merica 🇺🇸 http://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-caused-major-problems-at-the-polls-last-night/ -Sean On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me > they require one of the following: > > - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety > (DPS) > - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS > - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS > - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS > - United States military identification card containing the person’s > photograph > - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s > photograph > - United States passport > > Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see > anything inconsistent there. > > here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there > is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for > the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to > get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I > really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a > citizen to be eligible to vote. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us');>> wrote: > >> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of >> gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super >> conservative "republican" could ever win. >> >> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a >> lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All >> the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal >> "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you >> need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or >> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was >> issued by a state school. >> >> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make >> America great?!?! >> >> -Sean >> >> >> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net');>> wrote: >> >>> "conservative minority" HAH! >>> >>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while >>> indeed a minority fight for or against most things. >>> >>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and >>> illegal immigration. >>> >>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois, >>> they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks. >>> >>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the >>> most important thing be any different? >>> >>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical >>> conversation. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>> >>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a >>> non-issue...PERIOD! >>> >>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked >>> Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was the >>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans >>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south >>> of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that >>> time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) >>> >>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" >>> mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have >>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans >>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. >>> >>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of being >>> a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this country >>> being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see their >>> neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to >>> gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social >>> security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the >>> old, sick and poor from dying on the streets. >>> >>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and >>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society. >>> >>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF? >>> >>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a >>> million pieces...you reap what you sow. >>> >>> America is already fucking great! >>> >>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American >>> politicians act this poorly. >>> >>> 2 cents >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The negotiation >>>> is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this process and is >>>> bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or >>>> thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made. >>>> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and >>>> having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get >>>> people’s attention. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course not. Is >>>> it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely. There >>>> IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. Trump is >>>> crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s >>>> benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many >>>> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried >>>> in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject. But, I >>>> *still >>>> believe in America* and its strength and there is been absolutely >>>> nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only >>>> further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented >>>> level historically. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan” >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM >>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers >>>> to Mexico - WSJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking >>>> idiot..oh yes I did >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237 >>>> >>> >>> >
