Winters, and I didn't run again. Decided it was someone else's turn.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:25 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> yep...you are just too cool!!!   are you still mayor of Merkel?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'll agree with keeping government out of the religion business no matter
>> if it is schools or whatever. Religion is already screwed up enough without
>> getting government involved. I guess I don't spend enough time around
>> racist guys. What a bummer.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lewis..it happens in Texas everyday.....even in high school
>>> sports....research Texas AM visit by kids from Dallas, remember kid with
>>> clock, WestLake vs Pflugerville where N word yelled at Pflugerville team,
>>> Socorro Baseball State Championship game versus WestLake---calling kidsm
>>> beaners and wetbacks, etc...
>>> Hell Odessa is still pretty racists....and last year my son and I were
>>> having breakfast at Lori's in Midland at counter next to three gentlemen
>>> talking real loud about beaners and spiks, plus tearing Obama a new
>>> one....blah blah...until my son asked them if any of them had served in the
>>> military?   Nope...my son politely told he had served two tours in Iraq,
>>> lost good friends and could they please lower their voices as he was trying
>>> to enjoy his breakfast and didn't want to me to get upset.    They didn't
>>> say a thing until we left....the cook heard us ad our meal was free.   BTW,
>>> he was white.    So Lewis, our state needs to progress a bit more in that
>>> respect...and as much as I hate to say it, my children's mom is a Perry and
>>> second cousin to our past governor.   That is the family secret we
>>> hold....like that crazy uncle everyone seems to have...even though I have
>>> trained my children in hand to hand self defense, I have always said
>>> Education is the key....There is a school in our 2nd ward that teaches kids
>>> from poor neighborhood advanced studies and technology.   Their motto, "Out
>>> of the Barrio with an education !!"
>>> That is what our country needs, better educated kids with a world view
>>> not marred by religious zealots.   Parents should teach children about God
>>> and religion or send them to a private religious school, but not public
>>> schools....as far as I can recall we are still have separation of Church
>>> and State in Constitution.   Also keep an eye out for trucks all around
>>> Texas with Confederate Flag, Mud Flaps, or bumper Stickers...we saw 4 in
>>> Amarillo this past January while working in Borger.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jaime, you say that like it happened yesterday. Do you think that
>>>> Texas, and by that I guess those sitting in power today, are actively
>>>> trying to dissuade minority voting? Other than what falls under
>>>> gerrymandering like everyone else has already mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, I wish it was legal to prevent those who don't pay
>>>> taxes from voting. Not sure anything would be different but I think if you
>>>> are going to help decide how the money gets spent you should have to
>>>> contribute some of it.
>>>>
>>>> OK. Start the all caps yelliing.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:59 AM Jaime Solorza <
>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Texas has a track record of keeping African Americans and Mexican
>>>>> Americans from voting and getting equal access to education.    They used
>>>>> all kinds of tactics including taxes to do it.   I tried telling the
>>>>> students at Tornillo High School to study what Chicano students did in
>>>>> California to fight for better education.  We did same in El Paso....told
>>>>> them to register and vote...Trump has gotten allot of Hispanics to go 
>>>>> vote!
>>>>> Guess he did something right....ha
>>>>> On Apr 7, 2016 10:34 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all
>>>>> racist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just
>>>>> fine with that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>>>
>>>>> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells
>>>>> me they require one of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public
>>>>>    Safety (DPS)
>>>>>    - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
>>>>>    - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
>>>>>    - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS
>>>>>    - United States military identification card containing the
>>>>>    person’s photograph
>>>>>    - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s
>>>>>    photograph
>>>>>    - United States passport
>>>>>
>>>>> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really
>>>>> see anything inconsistent there.
>>>>>
>>>>> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and
>>>>> there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't
>>>>> pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth
>>>>> certificate to get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're
>>>>> actually citizen? I really don't see anything unfair about requiring
>>>>> someone to prove they're a citizen to be eligible to vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of
>>>>>> gerrymandering.  They are in districts that are so skewed that only a 
>>>>>> super
>>>>>> conservative "republican" could ever win.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have
>>>>>> a lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%.  
>>>>>> All
>>>>>> the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an 
>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>> "poll tax".  Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you
>>>>>> need to produce costs money.  Also in texas you can use your hunting or
>>>>>> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> issued by a state school.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2.
>>>>>> Make America great?!?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "conservative minority" HAH!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while
>>>>>>> indeed a minority fight for or against most things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and
>>>>>>> illegal immigration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in
>>>>>>> Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander 
>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>> sucks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should
>>>>>>> the most important thing be any different?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical
>>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a
>>>>>>> non-issue...PERIOD!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked
>>>>>>> Italians.  Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation  was 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
>>>>>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south
>>>>>>> of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
>>>>>>> mentality.  America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants.  Those who 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans
>>>>>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of
>>>>>>> being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this
>>>>>>> country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather
>>>>>>> see their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> have to gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to
>>>>>>> win.  Social security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> prevent the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies
>>>>>>> and rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!?  Seriously WTF?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
>>>>>>> million pieces...you reap what you sow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> America is already fucking great!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see
>>>>>>> American politicians act this poorly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2 cents
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up
>>>>>>>> front.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The
>>>>>>>> negotiation is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then
>>>>>>>> adjustments get made.  The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from 
>>>>>>>> him,
>>>>>>>> gets it started, and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in 
>>>>>>>> whatever way
>>>>>>>> that takes) will get people’s attention.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course
>>>>>>>> not.  Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed?
>>>>>>>>  absolutely.  There IS NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is 
>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>> a façade.  Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a 
>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> (for everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs 
>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>> in so, so many areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything
>>>>>>>> that isn’t buried in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.
>>>>>>>> But, I *still believe in America* and its strength and there is
>>>>>>>> been absolutely nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its
>>>>>>>> strength… only further dilution and division and flailing discourse at 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> unprecedented level historically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime
>>>>>>>> Solorza
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>>>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say
>>>>>>>> fucking idiot..oh yes I did
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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