I liked the people saying Bernie Sanders does well in mostly white states like
Hawaii.
(Hawaii is 25% white, by far the lowest percentage white population among the
states)
(Maine and Vermont are the highest at 95%)
(Maine however may change, given all those drug dealers named D-Money, Smoothie
and Shifty impregnating their young white girls)
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to
Mexico - WSJ
I'll agree with keeping government out of the religion business no matter if it
is schools or whatever. Religion is already screwed up enough without getting
government involved. I guess I don't spend enough time around racist guys. What
a bummer.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Lewis..it happens in Texas everyday.....even in high school
sports....research Texas AM visit by kids from Dallas, remember kid with clock,
WestLake vs Pflugerville where N word yelled at Pflugerville team, Socorro
Baseball State Championship game versus WestLake---calling kidsm beaners and
wetbacks, etc...
Hell Odessa is still pretty racists....and last year my son and I were having
breakfast at Lori's in Midland at counter next to three gentlemen talking real
loud about beaners and spiks, plus tearing Obama a new one....blah blah...until
my son asked them if any of them had served in the military? Nope...my son
politely told he had served two tours in Iraq, lost good friends and could they
please lower their voices as he was trying to enjoy his breakfast and didn't
want to me to get upset. They didn't say a thing until we left....the cook
heard us ad our meal was free. BTW, he was white. So Lewis, our state
needs to progress a bit more in that respect...and as much as I hate to say it,
my children's mom is a Perry and second cousin to our past governor. That is
the family secret we hold....like that crazy uncle everyone seems to
have...even though I have trained my children in hand to hand self defense, I
have always said Education is the key....There is a school in our 2nd ward that
teaches kids from poor neighborhood advanced studies and technology. Their
motto, "Out of the Barrio with an education !!"
That is what our country needs, better educated kids with a world view not
marred by religious zealots. Parents should teach children about God and
religion or send them to a private religious school, but not public
schools....as far as I can recall we are still have separation of Church and
State in Constitution. Also keep an eye out for trucks all around Texas with
Confederate Flag, Mud Flaps, or bumper Stickers...we saw 4 in Amarillo this
past January while working in Borger.
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Jaime, you say that like it happened yesterday. Do you think that Texas,
and by that I guess those sitting in power today, are actively trying to
dissuade minority voting? Other than what falls under gerrymandering like
everyone else has already mentioned.
Having said that, I wish it was legal to prevent those who don't pay taxes
from voting. Not sure anything would be different but I think if you are going
to help decide how the money gets spent you should have to contribute some of
it.
OK. Start the all caps yelliing.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:59 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Texas has a track record of keeping African Americans and Mexican
Americans from voting and getting equal access to education. They used all
kinds of tactics including taxes to do it. I tried telling the students at
Tornillo High School to study what Chicano students did in California to fight
for better education. We did same in El Paso....told them to register and
vote...Trump has gotten allot of Hispanics to go vote! Guess he did something
right....ha
On Apr 7, 2016 10:34 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all
racist.
Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just
fine with that.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells
me they require one of the following:
a.. Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public
Safety (DPS)
b.. Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
c.. Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
d.. Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS
e.. United States military identification card containing the
person’s photograph
f.. United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s
photograph
g.. United States passport
Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see
anything inconsistent there.
here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and
there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay
for the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to
get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I
really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a
citizen to be eligible to vote.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of
gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super
conservative "republican" could ever win.
As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have
a lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All the
voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal "poll
tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you need to
produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or fishing license
but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was issued by a state
school.
Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2.
Make America great?!?!
-Sean
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
"conservative minority" HAH!
Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while
indeed a minority fight for or against most things.
"Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal
and illegal immigration.
If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in
Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it
sucks.
You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why
should the most important thing be any different?
BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical
conversation.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
"The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve
a non-issue...PERIOD!
My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one
liked Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was
the same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico) He
forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the Italians
were looked down upon (early 1900's)
Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have no
compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans migrating
north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of
being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this
country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see
their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to
gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social
security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the old,
sick and poor from dying on the streets.
I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies
and rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF?
I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
million pieces...you reap what you sow.
America is already fucking great!
Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see
American politicians act this poorly.
2 cents
-Sean
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up
front.
However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The
negotiation is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this
process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be
discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments
get made. The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started,
and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get
people’s attention.
Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course
not. Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely.
There IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. Trump
is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s
benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many areas
and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried in PC or
politics or corruption or power or all of the above.
I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.
But, I still believe in America and its strength and there is been absolutely
nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only further
dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented level
historically.
Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country
fan”
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say
fucking idiot..oh yes I did
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
