We plan on not having to ever do it. but we stacked our priority customers
on one /24 so if there were service issues on one of the upstreams or if we
unexpectedly saturated one we could force them to use just the one

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:09 PM, John Babineaux <john.babine...@reach4com.com
> wrote:

> I would advertise all networks on each connection.
>
>
>
> You can Prepend to an extent to help prefer traffic coming back on a
> certain connection.  This cannot be prepended to high or some strip it
> off.  It broke the internet once by someone putting a really large one…..
>
>
>
> If one connection is really bad and the other is really good (to many hops
> or very few) you will really only use one most of the time.  BGP will send
> the traffic out of the connection that is closer.  If one of the
> connections goes out it will stop advertising on that link to the world.
> The working connection will be the only one advertising.
>
>
>
> If you are expecting problems I normally filter all traffic to keep things
> from flapping on that connection until the work is done.
>
> ____________________________________
>
> John Babineaux
>
> *System Administrator*
>
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>
> Phone: 337-783-3436 x105 | Email: *john.babine...@reach4com.com*
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF
>
>
>
> thank you guys
>
>
>
> Now another question, one of our providers is solid, the other..well. What
> kind of issues can come up with a basic BGP implementaion (we are taking
> the full tables) that will hurt us. Like is there some way that even if we
> stop announcing one of the /24 on their circuit theyll aggregate it on
> their own into the /22 of the ASN?
>
>
>
> You have to remember this is the upstream that moved our bandwidth from an
> ethernet port to an SPF one morning without mentioning it to us and without
> verifying we had a module, they also send a shitface drunk tech, and for
> kicks one day after a failed routing migration, they went ahead and
> implemented the changes anyway in the middle of the week, just because they
> could.
>
>
>
> So any upstream BGP shenanigans I fully expect to see
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:09 PM, John Babineaux <
> john.babine...@reach4com.com> wrote:
>
> One more thing BGP will pass a Default route to OSPF that will propagate
> it so that’s how it will know.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *John Babineaux
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF
>
>
>
> It’s pretty simple.
>
>
>
> You create a connection with your up streams using your ASN and their
> ASN.  You need ip connectivity to the other router (prob your gateway but
> could be another router). And a password if required or preferred.  Next
> you setup filters to only allow what networks you want to pass upstream and
> what you want to accept.  Then you add what networks you what to share to
> the world statically or to pass them from OSPF.
>
>
>
> Keep in mind they will create filters to block anything that you didn’t
> tell them that you will pass.  If you say x.x.x.x/22 they will only allow
> that exact thing.  You should only pass nothing lower than a /24 as most
> will block it.  It’s your choice for full routing tables or just /8 or /16
> etc.  You can also get a default route if you don’t get full tables.
>
>
>
> Most of the other things I read was for getting things to work when you
> have to connect to the other BGP router that’s not directly connected or
> your gateway.
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
>
> John Babineaux
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> REACH4 Communications | Website: *www.REACH4Com.com
> <http://www.reach4com.com/>*
>
> Phone: 337-783-3436 x105 | Email: *john.babine...@reach4com.com
> <john.babine...@reach4com.com>*
>
> 927 N Parkerson Ave, Crowley, LA 70526
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF
>
>
>
> I understand this, but its still a second new component to something I
> already am not competent in
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:25 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
> iBGP and eBGP are the same thing as far as configuration goes. (i) means
> you are using BGP internal to your network
>
> and (e) means you are using BGP to your providers. How you set them up is
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> The only different with multi-hop is that you have to set the maximum
> number of hops away the BGP peer can be.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:23 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, I cant add any topology changes or try to bring in unfamiliar things
> like ibgp or mpls/vpls while bringing in something unfamiliar like BGP
> unless I run out of interim options
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
> With Mikrotik, depending on your typology, running iBGP over layer 3 is
> probably better than EoIP. In the
>
> past, I wasn't happy with the way things worked over EoIP. It's now over a
> direct, layer 2 connection and
>
> works 100%. You can run setup multi-hop BGP routing to do it over layer 3
> (single setting in Winbox) but
>
> it's not as clean.
>
>
>
> Could you have the path between the two routers be layer 2 via VPLS or
> just using switches?
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> VPLS is not currently present, thats on my "to learn" list
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Jesse DuPont <
> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>
> The two BGP routers do not need to be on the same L2 network for the iBGP
> connection.
>
>
>
> *Jesse DuPont*
>
> Network Architect
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> Celerity Networks LLC
>
> Celerity Broadband LLC
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>
> On 5/3/16 10:25 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> A BGP speaker would be a router speaking BGP. In this case, most likely
> your routers at the edge of your network that connect to your providers.
>
> Are the routers that are between your two BGP routers capable of running
> BGP, resource wise?
>
> Can you do a VPLS tunnel between your two BGP routers? If not, what about
> a VLAN?
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:13:36 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF
>
> Mike, i said helmet, explain it to me like you would a 10 year old, then
> dumb it down to my level from there.
>
>
>
> I dont know what a bgp speaker is
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Your OSPF network will just use default routes to get to your BGP speakers.
>
> Your BGP speakers with full routes will choose the best path. Your BGP
> speakers should be connected together, via direct connection, layer 2
> tunnel (VPLS) or via intermediary iBGP speakers. Those iBGP speakers in the
> middle of your network will route the correct way, based on BGP.
>
>
>
> -----
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>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 10:41:52 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] BGP and OSPF
>
> We currently have a /22 with 2 /24 statically routed in each of our
> providers. We are moving to BGP.
>
>
>
> What Im still unclear on is how my OSPF network is going to decide on the
> best path for data to flow externally
>
>
>
> can somebody give me the helmet version of how this is accomplished
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



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