Never really left.  I would have to lose customers with epmp 2.4 wifi due
to lack of signal.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 5, 2016 10:12 PM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

So you went back to UBNT in 2.4?



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:57 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP



No.  I have no pmp450 in my network simply due to cost.




Josh Luthman

Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

Josh,



Have you tried 450 2.4 in the exact situation where ePMP 2.4 “sucked”?



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Thursday, June 2, 2016 5:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP



No...it's not.  The EPMP 2.4 radios just suck at penetration.  I've done
Ubnt KPP and IT Elite - they all performed terribly.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:



hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using kp
performance.  With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas...



----- Original Message -----

*From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP



Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be mainly in the
antennas.  2.4 GHz from any vendor should penetrate the same, the radio
waves don’t care what brand radio launched them.  And I think the
difference between the platforms will be most evident in low interference
environment where they can achieve their full modulation and throughput.
With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off
road racing, neither will be able to show off its capabilities.  Receiver
sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.





*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net>

*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP





Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450  - is there any (in
2.4)

we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4 than epmp 2.4 - -
and from the performance of

the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better!



----- Original Message -----

*From:* Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM

*Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP



We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.  Some Ubiquiti we tried and
some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have tested but so far
have not deployed more then couple test links.

For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences
you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance among others?

For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning?

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