So you went back to UBNT in 2.4?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

No.  I have no pmp450 in my network simply due to cost.


Josh Luthman
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Paul McCall 
<pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Josh,

Have you tried 450 2.4 in the exact situation where ePMP 2.4 “sucked”?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 5:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

No...it's not.  The EPMP 2.4 radios just suck at penetration.  I've done Ubnt 
KPP and IT Elite - they all performed terribly.


Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using kp performance.  
With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas...

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Hohhof<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be mainly in the antennas.  
2.4 GHz from any vendor should penetrate the same, the radio waves don’t care 
what brand radio launched them.  And I think the difference between the 
platforms will be most evident in low interference environment where they can 
achieve their full modulation and throughput.  With low SNR, I think it’s kind 
of like arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off road racing, neither will be able to 
show off its capabilities.  Receiver sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.


From: CBB - Jay Fuller<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP


Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450  - is there any (in 2.4)
we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4 than epmp 2.4 - - and 
from the performance of
the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better!

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt<mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.  Some Ubiquiti we tried and
some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have tested but so far
have not deployed more then couple test links.

For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences
you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance among others?

For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning?


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