All of the above.

On 6/6/2016 10:52 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
What were the symptoms of problems with ubnt? low modulation? sector capacity issues?
What made your friend and you decide to switch to epmp?

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Jerry Head <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2016 10:36 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

    Yup 36 Max ptmp and no I cannot confirm what power levels were
    being run on UBNT.

    On 6/6/2016 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
    21+15 just checked


    Josh Luthman
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    On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Josh Luthman
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Isn't it 21+18 max?

        Josh Luthman
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        On Jun 6, 2016 10:52 AM, "Mathew Howard"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            only if the power is set wrong.

            On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                Epmp is like 6 dB less power?

                Josh Luthman
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                On Jun 6, 2016 10:47 AM, "Mathew Howard"
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    The only direct comparison I've seen with the
                    same antennas at the AP was the one Jerry Head
                    mentioned here... and he wasn't able to confirm
                    that TX power was the same.

                    The other thing that I'm wondering about is if
                    the fact that the Cambium sectors are dual slant
                    instead of H/V has something to do with it.

                    On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Ken Hohhof
                    <[email protected]> wrote:

                        Someone asked whether the xmt power was
                        apples-to-apples, has that been answered?
                        If the antennas are comparable, it would seem
                        the only explanations for different rcv
                        signal would be xmt power, or calibration error.
                        *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2016 8:18 AM
                        *To:* [email protected]
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
                        I think if I was cambium, I would have a
                        couple of guys on a plane or in a car with a
                        suitcase of equipment to visit you in the field.
                        This was not the intended or expected outcome
                        for that product.
                        *From:* Josh Luthman
                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Sent:* Sunday, June 05, 2016 8:17 PM
                        *To:* [email protected]
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

                        Never really left. I would have to lose
                        customers with epmp 2.4 wifi due to lack of
                        signal.

                        Josh Luthman
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                        On Jun 5, 2016 10:12 PM, "Paul McCall"
                        <[email protected]> wrote:

                            So you went back to UBNT in 2.4?

                            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]]
                            *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
                            *Sent:* Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:57 PM


                            *To:* [email protected]
                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

                            No. I have no pmp450 in my network simply
                            due to cost.


                            Josh Luthman


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                            On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Paul
                            McCall <[email protected]> wrote:

                            Josh,

                            Have you tried 450 2.4 in the exact
                            situation where ePMP 2.4 “sucked”?

                            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]]
                            *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
                            *Sent:* Thursday, June 2, 2016 5:10 PM
                            *To:* [email protected]
                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

                            No...it's not.  The EPMP 2.4 radios just
                            suck at penetration. I've done Ubnt KPP
                            and IT Elite - they all performed terribly.


                            Josh Luthman
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                            On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, CBB - Jay
                            Fuller <[email protected]> wrote:

                            hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure
                            with ubnt we're using kp performance.
                            With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas...

                                ----- Original Message -----

                                *From:*Ken Hohhof
                                <mailto:[email protected]>

                                *To:*[email protected]

                                *Sent:*Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM

                                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

                                Jay, I suspect the difference you are
                                seeing may be mainly in the
                                antennas.  2.4 GHz from any vendor
                                should penetrate the same, the radio
                                waves don’t care what brand radio
                                launched them.  And I think the
                                difference between the platforms will
                                be most evident in low interference
                                environment where they can achieve
                                their full modulation and throughput.
                                With low SNR, I think it’s kind of
                                like arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for
                                off road racing, neither will be able
                                to show off its capabilities.
                                Receiver sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz
                                won’t matter.

                                *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller
                                <mailto:[email protected]>

                                *Sent:*Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM

                                *To:*[email protected]

                                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

                                Also interested in interference
                                rejection of the pmp450  - is there
                                any (in 2.4)

                                we are getting better foliage
                                penetration with ubnt 2.4 than epmp
                                2.4 - - and from the performance of

                                the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it
                                penetrated better!

                                    ----- Original Message -----

                                    *From:*Matt
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>

                                    *To:*[email protected]

                                    *Sent:*Thursday, June 02, 2016
                                    2:25 PM

                                    *Subject:*[AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

                                    We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450
                                    deployed. Some Ubiquiti we tried and
                                    some we inherited as well.  Have
                                    some ePMP we have tested but so far
                                    have not deployed more then
                                    couple test links.

                                    For those who have tried both
                                    ePMP and PMP450 what are the
                                    differences
                                    you have seen in performance?
                                    Interference tolerance among others?

                                    For those that have gone with
                                    PMP450 over ePMP what was the
                                    reasoning?






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