The things you listed and more? :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 6, 2016 11:52 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
> > > What were the symptoms of problems with ubnt? low modulation? sector > capacity issues? > What made your friend and you decide to switch to epmp? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jerry Head <li...@blountbroadband.com> > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2016 10:36 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP > > Yup 36 Max ptmp and no I cannot confirm what power levels were being run > on UBNT. > > On 6/6/2016 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > 21+15 just checked > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > >> Isn't it 21+18 max? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Jun 6, 2016 10:52 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> only if the power is set wrong. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Epmp is like 6 dB less power? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Jun 6, 2016 10:47 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only direct comparison I've seen with the same antennas at the AP >>>>> was the one Jerry Head mentioned here... and he wasn't able to confirm >>>>> that >>>>> TX power was the same. >>>>> >>>>> The other thing that I'm wondering about is if the fact that the >>>>> Cambium sectors are dual slant instead of H/V has something to do with it. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Someone asked whether the xmt power was apples-to-apples, has that >>>>>> been answered? >>>>>> >>>>>> If the antennas are comparable, it would seem the only explanations >>>>>> for different rcv signal would be xmt power, or calibration error. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2016 8:18 AM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>>>> >>>>>> I think if I was cambium, I would have a couple of guys on a plane or >>>>>> in a car with a suitcase of equipment to visit you in the field. >>>>>> This was not the intended or expected outcome for that product. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 05, 2016 8:17 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Never really left. I would have to lose customers with epmp 2.4 wifi >>>>>> due to lack of signal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> On Jun 5, 2016 10:12 PM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So you went back to UBNT in 2.4? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:57 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No. I have no pmp450 in my network simply due to cost. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried 450 2.4 in the exact situation where ePMP 2.4 “sucked”? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 2, 2016 5:10 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No...it's not. The EPMP 2.4 radios just suck at penetration. I've >>>>>> done Ubnt KPP and IT Elite - they all performed terribly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < >>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using kp >>>>>> performance. With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be mainly in the >>>>>> antennas. 2.4 GHz from any vendor should penetrate the same, the radio >>>>>> waves don’t care what brand radio launched them. And I think the >>>>>> difference between the platforms will be most evident in low interference >>>>>> environment where they can achieve their full modulation and throughput. >>>>>> With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for >>>>>> off >>>>>> road racing, neither will be able to show off its capabilities. Receiver >>>>>> sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450 - is there >>>>>> any (in 2.4) >>>>>> >>>>>> we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4 than epmp 2.4 >>>>>> - - and from the performance of >>>>>> >>>>>> the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some Ubiquiti we tried and >>>>>> some we inherited as well. Have some ePMP we have tested but so far >>>>>> have not deployed more then couple test links. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences >>>>>> you have seen in performance? Interference tolerance among others? >>>>>> >>>>>> For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >
