Any ideas on how cheap you can get in on the vm. �Thats a
nice way to go for most people i would assume.�
Craig Schmaderer
Cell 402-380-1245
Skywave Wireless, Inc.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0500, "Simon Westlake"
<simon@sonar.software> wrote:
They do have a virtualized appliance now, but if you want the
hardware appliance, you still have to buy it. My understanding
of why they stop selling the software is that it still has to
be validated to function on older devices - some of become
unusable because of lack of memory as signatures expanded. Some
of it is lack of desire to continue to support hardware that
they themselves can't source anymore as well, I'm sure - it's
all just x86 stuff.
I don't remember the whole history of the company, they were a
different company name previously and acquired a Swedish
corporation, in the restructure, they became Procera.
On 6/21/2016 12:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
If their product is the subscription service, they don't
hesitate selling the subscription service. $2,500/year is
better than $0/year.
Okay, so then don't cover the hardware anymore, software only.
They should sell software-only to anyone at any time.
Procera has been around for 10 years? Hrm. I'da guessed four
or five.
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Well, one of the things to bear in mind with Procera is that
you are essentially buying the subscription service. Even
though the box isn't cheap, the value of the product is really
the subscription. One of the things that the
support/subscription covers is next day air replacement on the
hardware. So now, you bought some old beat up box off Ebay,
and you want to put it under a support contract, and things
get messy when the hardware fails.
So, I understand their reluctance - but they will do it. I'm
mostly just advising caution because it's a complex
arrangement - you want to make sure the box isn't EOL, you
need to make sure it works, that you can still get expansion
cards for it, etc. Sometimes these boxes on eBay look like a
good deal, but there is a lot of factors to look at before you
buy it, it's not a simple purchase. That being said, there are
some deals to be had, and I've helped people navigate it, but
I've also had to give people bad news after they snapped up
some 10 year old, EOL unit for a 'steal'.
On 6/21/2016 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I don't understand this mentality from some companies.�
I mean, someone bought this new, and may have at least
hesitated if they knew that the resale value would
immediately be zero.
I guess at least they license used units.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Simon Westlake
<simon@sonar.software
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','simon@sonar.software');>> wrote:
Bear in mind they are not overly enthusiastic about
licensing used boxes
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