Instagram is about to die off? >Alexa rank Increase 19 (July 2016) >Ranked 16th in the US
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/instagram.com Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > No need for Snapchat. It'll die off like Instagram and Tumblr are about to > do. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> > *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Friday, August 12, 2016 10:56:00 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > Snapchat is no longer either a teen app nor its for nudes... like every > app, it evolves ... If you guys are not keeping pace with the digital > evolution... you turn into dinosaurs... > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > >> You have a very small population to cater to... and most of them probably >> don't use FB. LOL >> >> Travis >> >> >> On 8/11/2016 11:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> I wish you could teach me how to use FB for marketing. I finally >>> stopped paying google and bing and my sales have gone way up. Go figure. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >>> >>> So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years >>> (before they were even called WISPs). That's hilarious. >>> >>> "Fiber! Fiber! Fiber! That is the answer to everything. We are doing >>> fiber everywhere!" >>> "Fiber is expensive, and we can never get an ROI with that model... >>> let's look at wireless." >>> >>> I'm still laughing... a company that size, with those resources, and yet >>> they still seem to be clueless sometimes. I'm in agreement, I doubt >>> Google will even be around in 20 years. I own several e-commerce >>> companies (multi-million dollar ones), and we don't spend a dime with >>> Google. One company spends $5k/month with Facebook and it generates >>> $400k in sales, per month. >>> >>> Google is becoming "old school"... the same way email is compared to >>> texting... and the way texting/FB/Instagram is compared to Snapchat. >>> These companies get big, really fast... but the problem is, that means >>> someone else can do the same thing. >>> >>> Travis >>> >>> >>> On 8/11/2016 6:26 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry to sound like not a google fanboy but it's a typical phd >>>> company.. They look at the paper pile before the experience pile... & yes >>>> they will eventually go down because of it... >>>> >>>> On 08/11/2016 03:24 PM, Brian Webster wrote: >>>> >>>>> Having been directly involved in the Google Fiber projects, I can tell >>>>> you there are a number of factors that caused them to take pause on the >>>>> deployments. One was the almost obstructionist attitude of pole owners >>>>> (read competitors to their broadband deployment). This forced a lot more >>>>> of >>>>> the project deigns to underground deployment. In cities like San Jose and >>>>> San Francisco, there were a lot of requirements that cost more money than >>>>> Google budgeted for. In some respects Google kind of had the idea that >>>>> cities would remove obstacles like that to get them in their city. With so >>>>> much existing broadband already in place, this is certainly not the case. >>>>> I >>>>> think Google thought all cities were going to have the attitude like they >>>>> had with the first cities who applied for Google to come to their cities >>>>> (Like Kansas City did). >>>>> >>>>> Google was also of the impression that they could design and permit >>>>> their networks and then cherry pick neighborhoods to deploy based on >>>>> pre-sign ups (in Google terms - fiberhoods). This creates a huge logistic >>>>> problem in planning construction especially with underground deployment. >>>>> This also drove up costs. >>>>> >>>>> Google is still investigating the wireless options. What you will see >>>>> from them should be a hybrid network system. They will buy up dark fiber, >>>>> capacity on lit fiber, conduit space and whole fiber systems where they >>>>> can. They may use microwave to cross connect systems or bridge high >>>>> construction cost areas such as railroad crossings. They are looking at >>>>> wireless to basically go more from the curb to the customer, especially in >>>>> MDU cases. Existing competition and/or existing contracts within an MDU >>>>> makes it risky to do a wired play if they cannot assure themselves of a >>>>> huge take rate within the MDU. I see their wireless play as more of a high >>>>> capacity short hop last mile, but even then they will have challenges with >>>>> spectrum, interference and capacity. >>>>> >>>>> While we all would think Google is a great company with resources to >>>>> do whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot from >>>>> the inside. I like to equate them to a group of thirty somethings with ADD >>>>> and too much money. They also seem to have the attitude that older folks >>>>> are too far behind the times to possibly know what they are talking about. >>>>> Google is certainly not a utility infrastructure company and lack the >>>>> people, tools and skill sets to be one. They are their own best >>>>> cheerleaders and they have a dangerous habit of believing their own hype >>>>> internally and are not real good at listening to fresh viewpoints and >>>>> outside input. >>>>> >>>>> Thank You, >>>>> Brian Webster >>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >>>>> >>>>> They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel >>>>> through the eye of a needle. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Josh Reynolds >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >>>>> >>>>> So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your >>>>> WISP. >>>>> >>>>> We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in >>>>> the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best RF >>>>> engineering talent in the world on their payroll? >>>>> >>>>> They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which >>>>> is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most >>>>> appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a couple >>>>> hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing the same >>>>> thing too. It's the smart play. >>>>> >>>>> At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean "saying >>>>> they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies". >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < >>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wait until they experience ducting ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Bill Prince >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in >>>>>> San Jose. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone know anything about Webpass? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to >>>>>> fiber. >>>>>> Interesting times! >>>>>> >>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/ >>>>>> google-fiber-del >>>>>> ays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
