Maybe thats what it started out as but i know a ton of 30+year old people that use it. Actually know some people in their 50's that have it. I know one thing it is generating enough traffic to register in my Procera box...
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I haven't, no, because I'm not a teenager or pre-teen looking to show my > genitals to another teenager or pre-teen. That's what Snapchat is... > underage dick pics. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, August 12, 2016 7:06:09 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > Mike, > > Have you ever used Snapchat? I mean for anything other than sending pics > of genitals? lol. Its very addicting, almost like facebook or worse. And > theres alot more on it than genitals. Actually i only seen a genital pic > once and that was a friend of mine was sending it to his girlfriend and > accidentally checked my name instead of hers, (both start with the same > letter). > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> "and the way texting/FB/Instagram is compared to Snapchat." >> >> How people communicate is compared to how people send each other pictures >> of their genitals? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:50:22 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years >> (before they were even called WISPs). That's hilarious. >> >> "Fiber! Fiber! Fiber! That is the answer to everything. We are doing >> fiber everywhere!" >> "Fiber is expensive, and we can never get an ROI with that model... >> let's look at wireless." >> >> I'm still laughing... a company that size, with those resources, and yet >> they still seem to be clueless sometimes. I'm in agreement, I doubt >> Google will even be around in 20 years. I own several e-commerce >> companies (multi-million dollar ones), and we don't spend a dime with >> Google. One company spends $5k/month with Facebook and it generates >> $400k in sales, per month. >> >> Google is becoming "old school"... the same way email is compared to >> texting... and the way texting/FB/Instagram is compared to Snapchat. >> These companies get big, really fast... but the problem is, that means >> someone else can do the same thing. >> >> Travis >> >> >> On 8/11/2016 6:26 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >> > Sorry to sound like not a google fanboy but it's a typical phd >> > company.. They look at the paper pile before the experience pile... >> > & yes they will eventually go down because of it... >> > >> > On 08/11/2016 03:24 PM, Brian Webster wrote: >> >> Having been directly involved in the Google Fiber projects, I can >> >> tell you there are a number of factors that caused them to take pause >> >> on the deployments. One was the almost obstructionist attitude of >> >> pole owners (read competitors to their broadband deployment). This >> >> forced a lot more of the project deigns to underground deployment. In >> >> cities like San Jose and San Francisco, there were a lot of >> >> requirements that cost more money than Google budgeted for. In some >> >> respects Google kind of had the idea that cities would remove >> >> obstacles like that to get them in their city. With so much existing >> >> broadband already in place, this is certainly not the case. I think >> >> Google thought all cities were going to have the attitude like they >> >> had with the first cities who applied for Google to come to their >> >> cities (Like Kansas City did). >> >> >> >> Google was also of the impression that they could design and permit >> >> their networks and then cherry pick neighborhoods to deploy based on >> >> pre-sign ups (in Google terms - fiberhoods). This creates a huge >> >> logistic problem in planning construction especially with underground >> >> deployment. This also drove up costs. >> >> >> >> Google is still investigating the wireless options. What you will see >> >> from them should be a hybrid network system. They will buy up dark >> >> fiber, capacity on lit fiber, conduit space and whole fiber systems >> >> where they can. They may use microwave to cross connect systems or >> >> bridge high construction cost areas such as railroad crossings. They >> >> are looking at wireless to basically go more from the curb to the >> >> customer, especially in MDU cases. Existing competition and/or >> >> existing contracts within an MDU makes it risky to do a wired play if >> >> they cannot assure themselves of a huge take rate within the MDU. I >> >> see their wireless play as more of a high capacity short hop last >> >> mile, but even then they will have challenges with spectrum, >> >> interference and capacity. >> >> >> >> While we all would think Google is a great company with resources to >> >> do whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot >> >> from the inside. I like to equate them to a group of thirty >> >> somethings with ADD and too much money. They also seem to have the >> >> attitude that older folks are too far behind the times to possibly >> >> know what they are talking about. Google is certainly not a utility >> >> infrastructure company and lack the people, tools and skill sets to >> >> be one. They are their own best cheerleaders and they have a >> >> dangerous habit of believing their own hype internally and are not >> >> real good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> >> Brian Webster >> >> www.wirelessmapping.com >> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel >> >> through the eye of a needle. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Josh Reynolds >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your >> >> WISP. >> >> >> >> We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in >> >> the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the >> >> best RF engineering talent in the world on their payroll? >> >> >> >> They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which >> >> is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most >> >> appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a >> >> couple hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing >> >> the same thing too. It's the smart play. >> >> >> >> At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean >> >> "saying they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies". >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller >> >> <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Wait until they experience ducting ;) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Bill Prince >> >>> To: af@afmug.com >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >>> >> >>> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in >> >>> San Jose. >> >>> >> >>> Anyone know anything about Webpass? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> bp >> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> >> >>> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to >> >>> fiber. >> >>> Interesting times! >> >>> >> >>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/ >> 08/google-fiber-del >> >>> ays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1 >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
