24 Volt-hours

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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 8/19/2016 12:23:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

You thought it was 24 vertical horizons didn't you?


Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:18 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Oh, I thought perhaps it was Vertical voltage vs Horizontal voltage....

From:Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:11 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

V = Volts ?

24VH = 24V high Power
24V  =  24V (regular power)

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:09:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?
H would probably mean “High” power? What does the VH mean? Or what is the significance to the “v”.

From:Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:06 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

Also 24VH but that's kind of going away. The H actually means 4 pair power and I think people would assume the extra amps doesn't change the pinout.

The interface has lots of warnings added in after real life problems. It's obviously created by a WISP guy.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
Also when enabling the port into VH mode you get this message.




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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
Confirmed. PTP820S POE works on 48VH ports!




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On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
If I remember correct the 820S is around 30w or less and 820C is higher due to dual radio/core.


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On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:58 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
Question is, does the 820S need all four pairs for power, or can it be supplied power on 1,2 & 3,6 only? 40W over only two pairs seems like it would be ungood. I know the Netonix switches will power AF5 and 24 radios which use all four pairs. Then the next question is per pair polarity, which I assume is different for the 820S vs AF.

We inject power to Exalt G2 radios using GIGE-POE-APCs with the jumpers removed on 4,5 & 7,8. But those are max 32W or so. And in the real world, I see them pulling about 25-27W.

On 8/15/2016 8:58 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
So looking at Cambium Forums

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-820-Licensed-Microwave/can-i-use-the-PTP650-PoE-Injector-for-PTP820-radio/td-p/42939

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-FAQ/PTP-650-Compatibilty-with-802-3at-standard-PoE/td-p/50740

https://forum.netonix.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=612

So it looks like PTP820 and PTP650 are both 802.3at pinouts.

I will try it on Wednesday with a spare PTP820S Radio when I get the Netonix switch.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
I found a post on the forums about IP20C working, BTW these units work + or - 48v DC directly into the unit. Also if you have the POE Unit it can do a range from 24vdc up to like 50vdc or something.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
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Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>I think it's -48 or optional +24

Correct... the optional = another piece of equipment which is basically a dual port dc to dc converted (it can take 24vdc on any polarity and and put out -48dc for the radio).


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:57:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?
I think it's -48 or optional +24
-Sean

On Monday, August 15, 2016, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
The ± is confusing. Does it support either polarity like the SAF Lumina?

On 8/15/2016 5:58 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
here's the data from the manual. we installed ours a year ago and i thought the PoE cambium supplied was an 802.3at but that could have been for the PMP450i APs we deployed at the same time.

Power Input Specifications
• Standard Input: ‐48 VDC
• IDU DC Input range: ‐40 to ‐60 VDC

Power Consumption Specifications
• Maximum Power Consumption 6‐11 GHz:

40W; 13‐38 GHz: 35W

PoE Injector Mechanical Specifications
• Dimensions – 134mm(H), 190mm(W),

62mm(D), 1 kg

PoE Injector Environmental Specifications
• 33°C to +55°C (‐45°C to +60°C extended)

PoE Injector Power Input Specifications

Standard Input: ‐48 or +24 VDC (Optional)

DC Input range: ±(18/40.5 to 60) VDC

(+18VDC extended range is supported as part of the nominal +24VDC support)

PoE Injector Interfaces

GbE Data Port supporting

10/100/1000Base‐T

Power‐Over‐Ethernet (PoE) Port

DC Power Port –40V to ‐60V (a PoE

supporting two redundant DC feeds each supporting ±(18‐60)V is available)




On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 4:35 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
I thought they were -48? Or is that only the direct power input?

On 8/15/2016 5:33 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
PTP820S is 802.3at (i believe 30W)

-sean


On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
Do the Netonix switches work with PTP820S? Has anyone used them togther?

Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291














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