Oh, I thought perhaps it was Vertical voltage vs Horizontal voltage....

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

V = Volts ? 

24VH = 24V high Power
24V  =  24V (regular power)

:)

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Snappy Internet & Telecom
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Miami, FL 33155
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  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:09:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

  H would probably mean “High” power?  What does the VH mean?  Or what is the 
significance to the “v”. 

  From: Josh Luthman
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:06 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

  Also 24VH but that's kind of going away.  The H actually means 4 pair power 
and I think people would assume the extra amps doesn't change the pinout.

  The interface has lots of warnings added in after real life problems.  It's 
obviously created by a WISP guy.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> 
wrote:

    Also when enabling the port into VH mode you get this message. 






    Erich Kaiser 
    North Central Tower
    er...@northcentraltower.com
    Office: 630-621-4804
    Cell: 630-777-9291

    On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Erich Kaiser 
<er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:

      Confirmed. PTP820S POE works on 48VH ports! 





      Erich Kaiser 
      North Central Tower
      er...@northcentraltower.com
      Office: 630-621-4804
      Cell: 630-777-9291


      On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Erich Kaiser 
<er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:

        If I remember correct the 820S is around 30w or less and 820C is higher 
due to dual radio/core. 


        Erich Kaiser 
        North Central Tower
        er...@northcentraltower.com
        Office: 630-621-4804
        Cell: 630-777-9291


        On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:58 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> 
wrote:

          Question is, does the 820S need all four pairs for power, or can it 
be supplied power on 1,2 & 3,6 only? 40W over only two pairs seems like it 
would be ungood. I know the Netonix switches will power AF5 and 24 radios which 
use all four pairs. Then the next question is per pair polarity, which I assume 
is different for the 820S vs AF.

          We inject power to Exalt G2 radios using GIGE-POE-APCs with the 
jumpers removed on 4,5 & 7,8. But those are max 32W or so. And in the real 
world, I see them pulling about 25-27W.


          On 8/15/2016 8:58 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:

            So looking at Cambium Forums 

            
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-820-Licensed-Microwave/can-i-use-the-PTP650-PoE-Injector-for-PTP820-radio/td-p/42939


            
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-FAQ/PTP-650-Compatibilty-with-802-3at-standard-PoE/td-p/50740


            https://forum.netonix.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=612


            So it looks like PTP820 and PTP650 are both 802.3at pinouts.

            I will try it on Wednesday with a spare PTP820S Radio when I get 
the Netonix switch.


            Erich Kaiser 
            North Central Tower
            er...@northcentraltower.com
            Office: 630-621-4804
            Cell: 630-777-9291


            On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Erich Kaiser 
<er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:

              I found a post on the forums about IP20C working, BTW these units 
work + or - 48v DC directly into the unit.  Also if you have the POE Unit it 
can do a range from 24vdc up to like 50vdc or something. 


              Erich Kaiser 
              North Central Tower
              er...@northcentraltower.com
              Office: 630-621-4804
              Cell: 630-777-9291


              On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

                >>I think it's -48 or optional +24

                Correct... the optional = another piece of equipment which is 
basically a dual port dc to dc converted (it can take 24vdc on any polarity and 
and put out -48dc for the radio).


                Faisal Imtiaz
                Snappy Internet & Telecom
                7266 SW 48 Street
                Miami, FL 33155
                Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

                Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


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                  From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
                  To: af@afmug.com
                  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:57:50 PM
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?

                  I think it's -48 or optional +24

                  -Sean 

                  On Monday, August 15, 2016, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> 
wrote:

                    The ± is confusing. Does it support either polarity like 
the SAF Lumina?


                    On 8/15/2016 5:58 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

                      here's the data from the manual.  we installed ours a 
year ago and i thought the PoE cambium supplied was an 802.3at but that could 
have been for the PMP450i APs we deployed at the same time. 

                      Power Input Specifications
                      • Standard Input: ‐48 VDC
                      • IDU DC Input range: ‐40 to ‐60 VDC 

                      Power Consumption Specifications
                      • Maximum Power Consumption 6‐11 GHz: 

                      40W; 13‐38 GHz: 35W 

                      PoE Injector Mechanical Specifications
                      • Dimensions – 134mm(H), 190mm(W), 

                      62mm(D), 1 kg 

                      PoE Injector Environmental Specifications
                      • 33°C to +55°C (‐45°C to +60°C extended) 

                      PoE Injector Power Input Specifications 

                        a.. Standard Input: ‐48 or +24 VDC (Optional) 

                        b.. DC Input range: ±(18/40.5 to 60) VDC 

                        (+18VDC extended range is supported as part of the 
nominal +24VDC support) 

                        PoE Injector Interfaces 

                          a.. GbE Data Port supporting 

                          10/100/1000Base‐T 

                          b.. Power‐Over‐Ethernet (PoE) Port 

                          c.. DC Power Port –40V to ‐60V (a PoE 

                          supporting two redundant DC feeds each supporting 
±(18‐60)V is available)




                      On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 4:35 PM, George Skorup 
<geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

                        I thought they were -48? Or is that only the direct 
power input?


                        On 8/15/2016 5:33 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

                          PTP820S is 802.3at (i believe 30W)  

                          -sean


                          On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Erich Kaiser 
<er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:

                            Do the Netonix switches work with PTP820S?  Has 
anyone used them togther?


                            Erich Kaiser 
                            North Central Tower
                            er...@northcentraltower.com
                            Office: 630-621-4804
                            Cell: 630-777-9291


















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