You thought it was 24 vertical horizons didn't you?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:18 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Oh, I thought perhaps it was Vertical voltage vs Horizontal voltage....
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 10:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?
>
> V = Volts ?
>
> 24VH = 24V high Power
> 24V  =  24V (regular power)
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
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>
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 12:09:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?
>
> H would probably mean “High” power?  What does the VH mean?  Or what is
> the significance to the “v”.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 10:06 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?
>
> Also 24VH but that's kind of going away.  The H actually means 4 pair
> power and I think people would assume the extra amps doesn't change the
> pinout.
>
> The interface has lots of warnings added in after real life problems.
> It's obviously created by a WISP guy.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Erich Kaiser <
> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>
>> Also when enabling the port into VH mode you get this message.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Erich Kaiser <
>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Confirmed. PTP820S POE works on 48VH ports!
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Erich Kaiser <
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I remember correct the 820S is around 30w or less and 820C is higher
>>>> due to dual radio/core.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>> North Central Tower
>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:58 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Question is, does the 820S need all four pairs for power, or can it be
>>>>> supplied power on 1,2 & 3,6 only? 40W over only two pairs seems like it
>>>>> would be ungood. I know the Netonix switches will power AF5 and 24 radios
>>>>> which use all four pairs. Then the next question is per pair polarity,
>>>>> which I assume is different for the 820S vs AF.
>>>>>
>>>>> We inject power to Exalt G2 radios using GIGE-POE-APCs with the
>>>>> jumpers removed on 4,5 & 7,8. But those are max 32W or so. And in the real
>>>>> world, I see them pulling about 25-27W.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/15/2016 8:58 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So looking at Cambium Forums
>>>>>
>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-
>>>>> 820-Licensed-Microwave/can-i-use-the-PTP650-PoE-Injector-
>>>>> for-PTP820-radio/td-p/42939
>>>>>
>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-
>>>>> FAQ/PTP-650-Compatibilty-with-802-3at-standard-PoE/td-p/50740
>>>>>
>>>>> https://forum.netonix.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=612
>>>>>
>>>>> So it looks like PTP820 and PTP650 are both 802.3at pinouts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try it on Wednesday with a spare PTP820S Radio when I get the
>>>>> Netonix switch.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>>> North Central Tower
>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Erich Kaiser <
>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I found a post on the forums about IP20C working, BTW these units
>>>>>> work + or - 48v DC directly into the unit.  Also if you have the POE Unit
>>>>>> it can do a range from 24vdc up to like 50vdc or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>>>> North Central Tower
>>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>I think it's -48 or optional +24
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct... the optional = another piece of equipment which is
>>>>>>> basically a dual port dc to dc converted (it can take 24vdc on any 
>>>>>>> polarity
>>>>>>> and and put out -48dc for the radio).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
>>>>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, August 15, 2016 7:57:50 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] netonix work with PTP820S?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's -48 or optional +24
>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 15, 2016, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ± is confusing. Does it support either polarity like the SAF
>>>>>>>> Lumina?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/15/2016 5:58 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> here's the data from the manual.  we installed ours a year ago and
>>>>>>>> i thought the PoE cambium supplied was an 802.3at but that could have 
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> for the PMP450i APs we deployed at the same time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Power Input Specifications
>>>>>>>> • Standard Input: ‐48 VDC
>>>>>>>> • IDU DC Input range: ‐40 to ‐60 VDC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Power Consumption Specifications
>>>>>>>> • Maximum Power Consumption 6‐11 GHz:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 40W; 13‐38 GHz: 35W
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PoE Injector Mechanical Specifications
>>>>>>>> • Dimensions – 134mm(H), 190mm(W),
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 62mm(D), 1 kg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PoE Injector Environmental Specifications
>>>>>>>> • 33°C to +55°C (‐45°C to +60°C extended)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PoE Injector Power Input Specifications
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Standard Input: ‐48 or +24 VDC (Optional)
>>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    DC Input range: ±(18/40.5 to 60) VDC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    (+18VDC extended range is supported as part of the nominal
>>>>>>>>    +24VDC support)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    PoE Injector Interfaces
>>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       GbE Data Port supporting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       10/100/1000Base‐T
>>>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Power‐Over‐Ethernet (PoE) Port
>>>>>>>>       -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       DC Power Port –40V to ‐60V (a PoE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       supporting two redundant DC feeds each supporting ±(18‐60)V
>>>>>>>>       is available)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 4:35 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought they were -48? Or is that only the direct power input?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/15/2016 5:33 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PTP820S is 802.3at (i believe 30W)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -sean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Erich Kaiser <
>>>>>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do the Netonix switches work with PTP820S?  Has anyone used them
>>>>>>>>>> togther?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>>>>>>>> North Central Tower
>>>>>>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>>>>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>>>>>>>>
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