If your contract with them doesn’t say its yours then it becomes part of the structure, thus theirs.
Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > On Aug 28, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > > Let me back this train up a little bit. My primary concern question is…. If > I run Fiber throughout a building (or copper), can building owner and I have > a contract where only I can use the very wire/fiber that I installed? I > would the answer at that basic level would be a yes, but am not positive. > > Not even thinking about exclusive rights to market a service to the building. > > Just want to see if I can “own” the wire/fiber that I put in the building. > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 2:31 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ownership of wire / fiber in a building > > If you can get the contract to be the 'riser management' company, would that > allow you to set high rates and discourage anyone else from coming in? We've > run into that in a few class A buildings. 'Oh, you need a cat 5 run from > floor 3 to floor 5, that will be $5000, and we are the only company allowed > to do work in the riser. > > On 8/28/2016 11:19 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: > I have typically ran across the terms “Franchise rights” and “Riser rights” > when it comes to buildings. > > If you have franchise rights you are the only one with rights to provide your > product to that building. > > Riser rights just gives you access to to raceways, risers, etc. for running > your cable. You could get exclusive access to such things, but I don’t see > that as often as franchise rights. I think this is mainly due to a franchise > fee is typically higher and more beneficial to the building owner. > > A telco can cry foul and play the fact that telephones are an essential > service. Even if they can’t legally do anything, they can pressure the > building owner enough where it becomes an issue. I have seen tenants want to > order landline phones in buildings where a WISP had exclusive rights. The > tenant is going to be favored by the building owner almost every time. > > My advice get exclusive access to any pathways for cable in regards to your > services with the ability to sublet. If you can get it, get an exclusive > franchise for providing data services. > > Justin Wilson > j...@mtin.net <mailto:j...@mtin.net> > > --- > http://www.mtin.net <http://www.mtin.net/> Owner/CEO > xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth > > http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> COO/Chairman > Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > > On Aug 28, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net > <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: > > I know that has been discussed several times in the past, but I recall a few > variables so I will re-ask the question. > > If our company goes into a building and wires (either pre-construction of > post construction), will a contract legally cover us so that nobody else can > come around and claim rights to use that to distribute a service also? > > Does that “ruling” change it we install conduit as well? > > We have a bunch buildings to get “wired” over the next 60 days and I want to > protect ourselves if at all possible. > > Paul > > Paul McCall, President > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. > 658 Old Dixie Highway > Vero Beach, FL 32962 > 772-564-6800 > pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com/> > www.floridabroadband.com <http://www.floridabroadband.com/> > >