How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used for cameras?

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the backhaul with servos.
That would really take me back to my R/C car days.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

>You would need a rotator that doesn't have any backlash or a way to 
>lock it up.
>
>On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it.  Or a ham antenna rotator, those
>>are much more heavy duty.
>>*From:* Joe Novak <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>
>>*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM
>>*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your
>>living room?
>>Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up?
>>On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
>><mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Antennas are the easy part.  Dual receivers and the voting circuit
>>     is the tricky part.
>>     *From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM
>>     *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>     Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas.  Like a
>>     spatial diversity setup.
>>     I wonder if McCown makes parts for that.
>>     ------ Original Message ------
>>     From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com 
>><mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>>
>>     To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>     Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM
>>     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>>     May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you
>>>     could install two radios, once that is on target in summer and 
>>>one
>>>     in winter, and switch between them without climbing at least.
>>>     On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
>>>     <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with 
>>>twin
>>>         poles they through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and
>>>         then hang the cross braces across the hangers.   Poles
>>>         twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension or
>>>         compression on the cross bracing...  Unless the poles 
>>>actually
>>>         start to lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much
>>>         immobile..   But putting two poles up pretty much brings it 
>>>to
>>>         the price of a tower.
>>>
>>>         On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>>             I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time.
>>>
>>>             Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable
>>>             curvature near the top. Maybe we'll move the dish below
>>>             the curve and see if that helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>             ------ Original Message ------
>>>             From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net
>>>             <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
>>>             To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>             Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM
>>>             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>>
>>>                 For us they are and haven't hand problems with
>>>                 twisting.  We've got one with a link that's been
>>>                 steady for 6 years or more.  The problem is accessing
>>>                 the link on short notice since we don't know a bucket
>>>                 truck and operators are very busy.  It seems like you
>>>                 could put two wood posts on either side of the pole
>>>                 and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it 
>>>from
>>>                 twisting.
>>>
>>>                 Matt wrote:
>>>
>>>                     I wonder if painting would help keep moisture
>>>                     out?  Maybe its a
>>>                     temperature thing too?
>>>
>>>                     I always thought wood poles would be great for 
>>>CPE
>>>                     locations but now maybe not.
>>>
>>>
>>>                     On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett
>>>                     <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
>>><mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>>                     wrote:
>>>
>>>                         I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with an
>>>                         AP and backhaul on it.  It's
>>>                         been in the ground about 3 years now.
>>>
>>>                         This past spring we noticed the signal drop
>>>                         slowly on the backhaul over the
>>>                         course of a month.  A climber went up and
>>>                         adjusted it by about 9 degrees,
>>>                         but he said the mount was tight when he got
>>>                         there.  This past month the RSSI
>>>                         on the backhaul has been slowly dropping 
>>>again.
>>>
>>>                         The humidity here tends to shoot way up in 
>>>the
>>>                         summer and drop in the
>>>                         winter.  I'm supposing this beast must be
>>>                         twisting as it soaks up moisture
>>>                         and then dries out again.
>>>
>>>                         Is this a problem that might diminish as the
>>>                         pole ages, or is there perhaps
>>>                         any possible remediation?  I guess the
>>>                         permanent fix is a real tower or a
>>>                         steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one 
>>>of
>>>                         you old phone guys knows some
>>>                         magic trick. Seems like if there was a wire
>>>                         attached to this pole, that a 9
>>>                         degree twist would put some wicked tension on 
>>>it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


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