Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind.

They do make some big cameras, so there must be something.



------ Original Message ------
From: "Brian Webster" <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used for cameras?

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the backhaul with servos.
That would really take me back to my R/C car days.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

You would need a rotator that doesn't have any backlash or a way to
lock it up.

On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it.  Or a ham antenna rotator, those
are much more heavy duty.
*From:* Joe Novak <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your
living room?
Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Antennas are the easy part. Dual receivers and the voting circuit
     is the tricky part.
     *From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM
     *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas. Like a
     spatial diversity setup.
     I wonder if McCown makes parts for that.
     ------ Original Message ------
     From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com
<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>>
     To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
     Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM
     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
     May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you
     could install two radios, once that is on target in summer and
one
     in winter, and switch between them without climbing at least.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
     <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

         When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with
twin
         poles they through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and
         then hang the cross braces across the hangers.   Poles
         twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension or
         compression on the cross bracing...  Unless the poles
actually
         start to lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much
         immobile..   But putting two poles up pretty much brings it
to
         the price of a tower.

         On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

             I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time.

             Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable
             curvature near the top. Maybe we'll move the dish below
             the curve and see if that helps.


             ------ Original Message ------
             From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net
             <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
             To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
             Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM
             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

                 For us they are and haven't hand problems with
                 twisting.  We've got one with a link that's been
steady for 6 years or more. The problem is accessing the link on short notice since we don't know a bucket truck and operators are very busy. It seems like you
                 could put two wood posts on either side of the pole
                 and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it
from
                 twisting.

                 Matt wrote:

                     I wonder if painting would help keep moisture
                     out?  Maybe its a
                     temperature thing too?

                     I always thought wood poles would be great for
CPE
                     locations but now maybe not.


                     On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett
                     <dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
                     wrote:

I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with an
                         AP and backhaul on it.  It's
                         been in the ground about 3 years now.

                         This past spring we noticed the signal drop
                         slowly on the backhaul over the
                         course of a month.  A climber went up and
                         adjusted it by about 9 degrees,
                         but he said the mount was tight when he got
                         there.  This past month the RSSI
                         on the backhaul has been slowly dropping
again.

                         The humidity here tends to shoot way up in
the
                         summer and drop in the
                         winter.  I'm supposing this beast must be
                         twisting as it soaks up moisture
                         and then dries out again.

Is this a problem that might diminish as the
                         pole ages, or is there perhaps
                         any possible remediation?  I guess the
                         permanent fix is a real tower or a
                         steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one
of
                         you old phone guys knows some
                         magic trick. Seems like if there was a wire
                         attached to this pole, that a 9
degree twist would put some wicked tension on
it.










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