An antenna rotor.....that's either genius or totally insane. I'll explore that idea.

Thanks for the ideas guys.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Joe Novak" <jno...@lrcomm.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/13/2016 12:22:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your living room?

Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Antennas are the easy part. Dual receivers and the voting circuit is the tricky part.

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas. Like a spatial diversity setup.
I wonder if McCown makes parts for that.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you could install two radios, once that is on target in summer and one in winter, and switch between them without climbing at least.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with twin poles they through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and then hang the cross braces across the hangers. Poles twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension or compression on the cross bracing... Unless the poles actually start to lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much immobile.. But putting two poles up pretty much brings it to the price of a tower.

On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time.

Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable curvature near the top. Maybe we'll move the dish below the curve and see if that helps.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

For us they are and haven't hand problems with twisting. We've got one with a link that's been steady for 6 years or more. The problem is accessing the link on short notice since we don't know a bucket truck and operators are very busy. It seems like you could put two wood posts on either side of the pole and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it from twisting.

Matt wrote:
I wonder if painting would help keep moisture out?  Maybe its a
temperature thing too?

I always thought wood poles would be great for CPE locations but now maybe not.


On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with an AP and backhaul on it. It's
been in the ground about 3 years now.

This past spring we noticed the signal drop slowly on the backhaul over the course of a month. A climber went up and adjusted it by about 9 degrees, but he said the mount was tight when he got there. This past month the RSSI
on the backhaul has been slowly dropping again.

The humidity here tends to shoot way up in the summer and drop in the winter. I'm supposing this beast must be twisting as it soaks up moisture
and then dries out again.

Is this a problem that might diminish as the pole ages, or is there perhaps any possible remediation? I guess the permanent fix is a real tower or a steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one of you old phone guys knows some magic trick. Seems like if there was a wire attached to this pole, that a 9
degree twist would put some wicked tension on it.








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