I have something on the drawing board. On Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind. > > They do make some big cameras, so there must be something. > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Brian Webster" <i...@wirelessmapping.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting > > How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used for cameras? >> >> Thank You, >> Brian Webster >> www.wirelessmapping.com >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >> >> I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the backhaul with servos. >> That would really take me back to my R/C car days. >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >> >> You would need a rotator that doesn't have any backlash or a way to >>> lock it up. >>> >>> On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it. Or a ham antenna rotator, those >>>> are much more heavy duty. >>>> *From:* Joe Novak <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>> What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your >>>> living room? >>>> Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up? >>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Antennas are the easy part. Dual receivers and the voting circuit >>>> is the tricky part. >>>> *From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>> Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas. Like a >>>> spatial diversity setup. >>>> I wonder if McCown makes parts for that. >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com >>>> <mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> >>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>> >>>>> May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you >>>>> could install two radios, once that is on target in summer and >>>>> one >>>>> in winter, and switch between them without climbing at least. >>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com >>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with >>>>> twin >>>>> poles they through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and >>>>> then hang the cross braces across the hangers. Poles >>>>> twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension or >>>>> compression on the cross bracing... Unless the poles >>>>> actually >>>>> start to lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much >>>>> immobile.. But putting two poles up pretty much brings it >>>>> to >>>>> the price of a tower. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time. >>>>> >>>>> Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable >>>>> curvature near the top. Maybe we'll move the dish below >>>>> the curve and see if that helps. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net >>>>> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>> >>>>> For us they are and haven't hand problems with >>>>> twisting. We've got one with a link that's been >>>>> steady for 6 years or more. The problem is accessing >>>>> the link on short notice since we don't know a bucket >>>>> truck and operators are very busy. It seems like you >>>>> could put two wood posts on either side of the pole >>>>> and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it >>>>> from >>>>> twisting. >>>>> >>>>> Matt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if painting would help keep moisture >>>>> out? Maybe its a >>>>> temperature thing too? >>>>> >>>>> I always thought wood poles would be great for >>>>> CPE >>>>> locations but now maybe not. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett >>>>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with an >>>>> AP and backhaul on it. It's >>>>> been in the ground about 3 years now. >>>>> >>>>> This past spring we noticed the signal drop >>>>> slowly on the backhaul over the >>>>> course of a month. A climber went up and >>>>> adjusted it by about 9 degrees, >>>>> but he said the mount was tight when he got >>>>> there. This past month the RSSI >>>>> on the backhaul has been slowly dropping >>>>> again. >>>>> >>>>> The humidity here tends to shoot way up in >>>>> the >>>>> summer and drop in the >>>>> winter. I'm supposing this beast must be >>>>> twisting as it soaks up moisture >>>>> and then dries out again. >>>>> >>>>> Is this a problem that might diminish as the >>>>> pole ages, or is there perhaps >>>>> any possible remediation? I guess the >>>>> permanent fix is a real tower or a >>>>> steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one >>>>> of >>>>> you old phone guys knows some >>>>> magic trick. Seems like if there was a wire >>>>> attached to this pole, that a 9 >>>>> degree twist would put some wicked tension on >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >