I have something on the drawing board.

On Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind.
>
> They do make some big cameras, so there must be something.
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Brian Webster" <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>
> How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used for cameras?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>
>> I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the backhaul with servos.
>> That would really take me back to my R/C car days.
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>
>> You would need a rotator that doesn't have any backlash or a way to
>>> lock it up.
>>>
>>> On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it.  Or a ham antenna rotator, those
>>>> are much more heavy duty.
>>>> *From:* Joe Novak <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>>> What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your
>>>> living room?
>>>> Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up?
>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Antennas are the easy part.  Dual receivers and the voting circuit
>>>>      is the tricky part.
>>>>      *From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>      *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM
>>>>      *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>      *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>>>      Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas.  Like a
>>>>      spatial diversity setup.
>>>>      I wonder if McCown makes parts for that.
>>>>      ------ Original Message ------
>>>>      From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com
>>>> <mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>>
>>>>      To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>      Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM
>>>>      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>>>
>>>>>      May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you
>>>>>      could install two radios, once that is on target in summer and
>>>>> one
>>>>>      in winter, and switch between them without climbing at least.
>>>>>      On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
>>>>>      <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with
>>>>> twin
>>>>>          poles they through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and
>>>>>          then hang the cross braces across the hangers.   Poles
>>>>>          twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension or
>>>>>          compression on the cross bracing...  Unless the poles
>>>>> actually
>>>>>          start to lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much
>>>>>          immobile..   But putting two poles up pretty much brings it
>>>>> to
>>>>>          the price of a tower.
>>>>>
>>>>>          On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>              I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time.
>>>>>
>>>>>              Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable
>>>>>              curvature near the top. Maybe we'll move the dish below
>>>>>              the curve and see if that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>              ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>              From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net
>>>>>              <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
>>>>>              To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>              Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM
>>>>>              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>>>>
>>>>>                  For us they are and haven't hand problems with
>>>>>                  twisting.  We've got one with a link that's been
>>>>>                  steady for 6 years or more.  The problem is accessing
>>>>>                  the link on short notice since we don't know a bucket
>>>>>                  truck and operators are very busy.  It seems like you
>>>>>                  could put two wood posts on either side of the pole
>>>>>                  and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it
>>>>> from
>>>>>                  twisting.
>>>>>
>>>>>                  Matt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                      I wonder if painting would help keep moisture
>>>>>                      out?  Maybe its a
>>>>>                      temperature thing too?
>>>>>
>>>>>                      I always thought wood poles would be great for
>>>>> CPE
>>>>>                      locations but now maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                      On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett
>>>>>                      <dmmoff...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>                      wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                          I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with an
>>>>>                          AP and backhaul on it.  It's
>>>>>                          been in the ground about 3 years now.
>>>>>
>>>>>                          This past spring we noticed the signal drop
>>>>>                          slowly on the backhaul over the
>>>>>                          course of a month.  A climber went up and
>>>>>                          adjusted it by about 9 degrees,
>>>>>                          but he said the mount was tight when he got
>>>>>                          there.  This past month the RSSI
>>>>>                          on the backhaul has been slowly dropping
>>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>>                          The humidity here tends to shoot way up in
>>>>> the
>>>>>                          summer and drop in the
>>>>>                          winter.  I'm supposing this beast must be
>>>>>                          twisting as it soaks up moisture
>>>>>                          and then dries out again.
>>>>>
>>>>>                          Is this a problem that might diminish as the
>>>>>                          pole ages, or is there perhaps
>>>>>                          any possible remediation?  I guess the
>>>>>                          permanent fix is a real tower or a
>>>>>                          steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one
>>>>> of
>>>>>                          you old phone guys knows some
>>>>>                          magic trick. Seems like if there was a wire
>>>>>                          attached to this pole, that a 9
>>>>>                          degree twist would put some wicked tension on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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