Panels have pretty good F/B ratio but yes, an RF armor type of thing would 
knock off some side lobes.  


From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Since the goal in this case isn't more gain, but narrower pattern, what about 
an "RF Armor" type of thing?


------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 3:08:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

  Yeah, but you have a fairly electrically large panel as a feed, so you would 
need a reflector 10 feet in diameter to properly illuminate it.  

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 1:05 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

  Would a Cassegrain work? Probably not cost effective though...


  On Sep 30, 2016 1:58 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    Not sure there is anyone stopping it.  Kinda hard to patent tower mounting 
hardware.  

    From: Adam Moffett 
    Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:51 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

    Or were you serious?  If I have access to machine tools can I make licensed 
knockoffs of M-TOW? 


    ------ Original Message ------
    From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: 9/30/2016 2:50:14 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

      Write it with a crayon on the back of your Burger King napkin.


      ------ Original Message ------
      From: ch...@wbmfg.com
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: 9/30/2016 2:49:34 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

        I will sell you a license today!

        From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
        Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:31 PM
        To: af@afmug.com 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

        i cant wait til 3d printers do galavanized steel. mccown tech can 
eliminate the hateful vendors, just purchase a 3 unit license from the website 
and install your mtow

        On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

          Sounds like 3D printing is the direction people are going for 
one-offs.


          ------ Original Message ------
          From: "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com>
          To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
          Sent: 9/30/2016 2:02:06 PM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

            When I was building slotted waveguide antennas for our network, we 
needed a way to seal up the slots so the rain wouldn't fill the antennas faster 
than a weep hole could drain it. I found that 3M made some heat shrink tubing 
that just fit over the size of tubing I was using. After heat shrinking the 
stick, we would dip the ends in "plastidip". Never had a leak. I wonder if you 
just needed to hand make a couple dipole or patch array antennas, if dipping 
them in plastidip wouldn't be a decent option. Obviously it would be labor and 
time intensive for production, but for a couple one-offs, why not?

            On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:42 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

              The antenna is the easy part, the case and mounting are more 
difficult and expensive.  Tooling alone for a new antenna case is easily $10K+. 
  

              From: Adam Moffett 
              Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:40 AM
              To: af@afmug.com 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

              Yup.  They have an array of metal circles on a board connected to 
each other by traces.

              What about a cheaper external antenna?  The price to beat is $120.



              ------ Original Message ------
              From: ch...@wbmfg.com
              To: af@afmug.com
              Sent: 9/30/2016 12:37:35 PM
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

                Yeah, that will be an array of patches inside.  Hard to couple 
to with any efficiency.  

                From: Adam Moffett 
                Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:34 AM
                To: af@afmug.com 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax 
CPE

                Like a 45 slant 15dbi panel.
                a 10" x 10" diamond with flattened corners.



                ------ Original Message ------
                From: ch...@wbmfg.com
                To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
                Sent: 9/30/2016 12:33:37 PM
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax 
CPE

                  What does the CPE look like?

                  From: Adam Moffett 
                  Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:29 AM
                  To: Animal Farm 
                  Subject: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

                  I want to narrow the radiation pattern on Wimax CPE in order 
to reduce interference.  Higher gain is a bonus, but mostly I want to tune out 
interference from other base stations and thereby improve CINR.

                  Right now all I've got is I can put an external antenna on 
with coax jumpers.  A dish with a significantly narrower pattern than the 
integrated panel is $120-$140 from KP Performance, plus the cost of the coax 
jumpers and the labor to seal them.

                  I'm really missing the Canopy stingers and reflectors right 
now.  If I could slip something on for $50 I'd be all over it like white on 
rice.  I'd also just settle for a cheaper external antenna.

                  Any brilliant ideas?






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