Not sure there is anyone stopping it.  Kinda hard to patent tower mounting 
hardware.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Or were you serious?  If I have access to machine tools can I make licensed 
knockoffs of M-TOW? 


------ Original Message ------
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 2:50:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

  Write it with a crayon on the back of your Burger King napkin.


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 9/30/2016 2:49:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

    I will sell you a license today!

    From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
    Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:31 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

    i cant wait til 3d printers do galavanized steel. mccown tech can eliminate 
the hateful vendors, just purchase a 3 unit license from the website and 
install your mtow

    On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Sounds like 3D printing is the direction people are going for one-offs.


      ------ Original Message ------
      From: "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com>
      To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
      Sent: 9/30/2016 2:02:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

        When I was building slotted waveguide antennas for our network, we 
needed a way to seal up the slots so the rain wouldn't fill the antennas faster 
than a weep hole could drain it. I found that 3M made some heat shrink tubing 
that just fit over the size of tubing I was using. After heat shrinking the 
stick, we would dip the ends in "plastidip". Never had a leak. I wonder if you 
just needed to hand make a couple dipole or patch array antennas, if dipping 
them in plastidip wouldn't be a decent option. Obviously it would be labor and 
time intensive for production, but for a couple one-offs, why not?

        On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:42 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

          The antenna is the easy part, the case and mounting are more 
difficult and expensive.  Tooling alone for a new antenna case is easily $10K+. 
  

          From: Adam Moffett 
          Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:40 AM
          To: af@afmug.com 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

          Yup.  They have an array of metal circles on a board connected to 
each other by traces.

          What about a cheaper external antenna?  The price to beat is $120.



          ------ Original Message ------
          From: ch...@wbmfg.com
          To: af@afmug.com
          Sent: 9/30/2016 12:37:35 PM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

            Yeah, that will be an array of patches inside.  Hard to couple to 
with any efficiency.  

            From: Adam Moffett 
            Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:34 AM
            To: af@afmug.com 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

            Like a 45 slant 15dbi panel.
            a 10" x 10" diamond with flattened corners.



            ------ Original Message ------
            From: ch...@wbmfg.com
            To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
            Sent: 9/30/2016 12:33:37 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

              What does the CPE look like?

              From: Adam Moffett 
              Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:29 AM
              To: Animal Farm 
              Subject: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

              I want to narrow the radiation pattern on Wimax CPE in order to 
reduce interference.  Higher gain is a bonus, but mostly I want to tune out 
interference from other base stations and thereby improve CINR.

              Right now all I've got is I can put an external antenna on with 
coax jumpers.  A dish with a significantly narrower pattern than the integrated 
panel is $120-$140 from KP Performance, plus the cost of the coax jumpers and 
the labor to seal them.

              I'm really missing the Canopy stingers and reflectors right now.  
If I could slip something on for $50 I'd be all over it like white on rice.  
I'd also just settle for a cheaper external antenna.

              Any brilliant ideas?






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