Maybe I'll get 4 pieces of sheet metal and make my own "hi perf" shroud.


------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 3:11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Panels have pretty good F/B ratio but yes, an RF armor type of thing would knock off some side lobes.


From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 1:10 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Since the goal in this case isn't more gain, but narrower pattern, what about an "RF Armor" type of thing?


------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 3:08:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Yeah, but you have a fairly electrically large panel as a feed, so you would need a reflector 10 feet in diameter to properly illuminate it.

From:Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 1:05 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Would a Cassegrain work? Probably not cost effective though...


On Sep 30, 2016 1:58 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Not sure there is anyone stopping it. Kinda hard to patent tower mounting hardware.

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:51 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Or were you serious? If I have access to machine tools can I make licensed knockoffs of M-TOW?


------ Original Message ------
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 2:50:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Write it with a crayon on the back of your Burger King napkin.


------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 2:49:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

I will sell you a license today!

From:That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:31 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

i cant wait til 3d printers do galavanized steel. mccown tech can eliminate the hateful vendors, just purchase a 3 unit license from the website and install your mtow

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like 3D printing is the direction people are going for one-offs.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/30/2016 2:02:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

When I was building slotted waveguide antennas for our network, we needed a way to seal up the slots so the rain wouldn't fill the antennas faster than a weep hole could drain it. I found that 3M made some heat shrink tubing that just fit over the size of tubing I was using. After heat shrinking the stick, we would dip the ends in "plastidip". Never had a leak. I wonder if you just needed to hand make a couple dipole or patch array antennas, if dipping them in plastidip wouldn't be a decent option. Obviously it would be labor and time intensive for production, but for a couple one-offs, why not?

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:42 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
The antenna is the easy part, the case and mounting are more difficult and expensive. Tooling alone for a new antenna case is easily $10K+.

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:40 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Yup. They have an array of metal circles on a board connected to each other by traces.

What about a cheaper external antenna? The price to beat is $120.



------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 12:37:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Yeah, that will be an array of patches inside. Hard to couple to with any efficiency.

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:34 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

Like a 45 slant 15dbi panel.
a 10" x 10" diamond with flattened corners.


------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/30/2016 12:33:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

What does the CPE look like?

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:29 AM
To:Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] I want a "Stinger like" antenna for Wimax CPE

I want to narrow the radiation pattern on Wimax CPE in order to reduce interference. Higher gain is a bonus, but mostly I want to tune out interference from other base stations and thereby improve CINR.

Right now all I've got is I can put an external antenna on with coax jumpers. A dish with a significantly narrower pattern than the integrated panel is $120-$140 from KP Performance, plus the cost of the coax jumpers and the labor to seal them.

I'm really missing the Canopy stingers and reflectors right now. If I could slip something on for $50 I'd be all over it like white on rice. I'd also just settle for a cheaper external antenna.

Any brilliant ideas?





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