Ahhh thanks for the clarification. It is what I thought. They are trying to shed their responsibility to share and resell their resources.
I would feel the same way about our network. However they owned all the lines and infrastructure and were a monopoly. They still do have a huge monopoly on the copper lines and fiber as well. Oddly enough, reluctantly I'm looking to get Bell fiber in our area. I've chased their sales department, my colleague has but they ignore anyone in this area. Its like they don't want my 10k a month. They simple do not want to sell fiber to competitors even at the wholesale level to anyone in the area. They want to do their own thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:51:05 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bell Canada deregulating in areas This is definately having impact on third party providers (TPIA as referenced).. Bell has been told that they must provide mandated access to these fiber networks as part of a ruling fairly recently … along with the access being opened up, there are separate hearings on disaggregation of wholesale access as well (which has significant pros/cons all in one) Forborne basically means no tariffs if I understand correctly … I’m obviously not a telecom lawyer or pretend to be one :) It doesn’t mean that they won’t provide wholesale access to those facilities and one might argue that it doesn’t mean they will neither … There’s a number of different proceedings around this ongoing - I find it hard to follow all of them but if you know the CRTC file number happy to provide some additional insight/opinion Paul > On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote: > > Locally seeing these notices popping up from Bell. So they are requesting to > be exempt from the rules the CRTC has set forth. This would be equivalent to > you going to the FCC and saying "your rules don't apply to us and I want you > to recognize that in these particular areas". Is my understanding correct? > > Sounds like: > A) They want permission to undercut prices in certain areas. > B) To be exempt from other tariffs and specifically excluding people from > using their lines. > C) Do they want to be allowed to throttle services? > > Locally there has been an area they put fiber in, and terminated their dsl > lined which left TPIA people high and dry. Tekksavvy etc could no longer > provide service and lost a bunch of customers. I don't know what the outcome > was but there was no rule yet in place that they had to share their fiber > lines too. So it was a grey area. I wonder if they are trying to exempt > themselves from a whole slew of things in certain areas. > > Anyway > > Does the FCC have any sort of provision for something similar? > > Have any of you used this before? > > Their notice was pretty vague. I'm going to see if I can find the filing. > > ------ > Keeping you informed. > > > As you may know, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications > Commission (CRTC) regulates the terms and conditions of the local services > that Bell provides you. This limits our flexibility to provide you the types > of competitive offers we’d like. That may all change in your area in the > coming months. > > On August 26, 2016, Bell filed an application to the CRTC to have certain > local services “forborne” from regulation. If our request is approved, local > telecommunication services Bell offers you will be forborne or deregulated by > the CRTC. You will continue to receive the quality services you have come to > expect from Bell, under our Terms of Service, which were previously provided > to you. You will find a copy at www.bell.ca/terms. The Terms of Service will > apply to your newly unregulated local services from the date the CRTC issues > an order approving the forbearance application for your local exchange area. > > What does this mean for you? > > • We will be able to provide you with more exciting offers and > propose more innovative services. > • We will continue to provide services on the basis of the Terms > of Service. > • As a Bell customer, you will be kept informed if the > application for forbearance is approved.
