Well here they are mainly DSL but do have fiber too. Some wireless (reeaaaly bad).
I hope they shoot this down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:46:42 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bell Canada deregulating in areas What you describe sounds l like what big telcos like AT&T have done over the past 10 years in the US. And much of this is regulated at the state level not federal, although the current FCC seems to want to expand its regulatory turf. AT&T for example would put in their hybrid/fiber UVerse system and stop selling DSL to new customers. It was partly their way of getting around federal requirements that they resell unbundled copper loops, since they had persuaded states this did not apply to "sub-loops". Of course now they are pushing DirecTV on new customers for the portion of the bundle, I'm not sure that necessarily means satellite TV, in the long run maybe it means a DirecTV streaming box fed by high speed Internet. They have stomped the CLEC threat out of existence, so maybe they are focusing back on their traditional enemy the cable companies, or maybe just wanting to be a 100% wireless company. -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Bell Canada deregulating in areas Locally seeing these notices popping up from Bell. So they are requesting to be exempt from the rules the CRTC has set forth. This would be equivalent to you going to the FCC and saying "your rules don't apply to us and I want you to recognize that in these particular areas". Is my understanding correct? Sounds like: A) They want permission to undercut prices in certain areas. B) To be exempt from other tariffs and specifically excluding people from using their lines. C) Do they want to be allowed to throttle services? Locally there has been an area they put fiber in, and terminated their dsl lined which left TPIA people high and dry. Tekksavvy etc could no longer provide service and lost a bunch of customers. I don't know what the outcome was but there was no rule yet in place that they had to share their fiber lines too. So it was a grey area. I wonder if they are trying to exempt themselves from a whole slew of things in certain areas. Anyway Does the FCC have any sort of provision for something similar? Have any of you used this before? Their notice was pretty vague. I'm going to see if I can find the filing. ------ Keeping you informed. As you may know, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) regulates the terms and conditions of the local services that Bell provides you. This limits our flexibility to provide you the types of competitive offers we’d like. That may all change in your area in the coming months. On August 26, 2016, Bell filed an application to the CRTC to have certain local services “forborne” from regulation. If our request is approved, local telecommunication services Bell offers you will be forborne or deregulated by the CRTC. You will continue to receive the quality services you have come to expect from Bell, under our Terms of Service, which were previously provided to you. You will find a copy at www.bell.ca/terms. The Terms of Service will apply to your newly unregulated local services from the date the CRTC issues an order approving the forbearance application for your local exchange area. What does this mean for you? • We will be able to provide you with more exciting offers and propose more innovative services. • We will continue to provide services on the basis of the Terms of Service. • As a Bell customer, you will be kept informed if the application for forbearance is approved.
