Lol... yeah that happens sometimes too but we are very persistent on that kind of stuff ;)
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:52 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: > > "Sorry, LEC says no ports available." > >> On 10/6/2016 8:22 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: >> Big decision for us Canadians today who utilize wholesale access networks a >> lot … (besides our own infrastructure) >> >>> http://www.bnn.ca/crtc-slashes-wholesale-fees-charged-by-incumbent-isps-in-bid-to-stay-competitive-1.580977 >> >> Great news! >> >> Paul >> >> >>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote: >>> >>> This is definately having impact on third party providers (TPIA as >>> referenced).. >>> >>> Bell has been told that they must provide mandated access to these fiber >>> networks as part of a ruling fairly recently … along with the access being >>> opened up, there are separate hearings on disaggregation of wholesale >>> access as well (which has significant pros/cons all in one) >>> >>> Forborne basically means no tariffs if I understand correctly … I’m >>> obviously not a telecom lawyer or pretend to be one :) It doesn’t mean >>> that they won’t provide wholesale access to those facilities and one might >>> argue that it doesn’t mean they will neither … >>> >>> There’s a number of different proceedings around this ongoing - I find it >>> hard to follow all of them but if you know the CRTC file number happy to >>> provide some additional insight/opinion >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Locally seeing these notices popping up from Bell. So they are requesting >>>> to be exempt from the rules the CRTC has set forth. This would be >>>> equivalent to you going to the FCC and saying "your rules don't apply to >>>> us and I want you to recognize that in these particular areas". Is my >>>> understanding correct? >>>> >>>> Sounds like: >>>> A) They want permission to undercut prices in certain areas. >>>> B) To be exempt from other tariffs and specifically excluding people from >>>> using their lines. >>>> C) Do they want to be allowed to throttle services? >>>> >>>> Locally there has been an area they put fiber in, and terminated their dsl >>>> lined which left TPIA people high and dry. Tekksavvy etc could no longer >>>> provide service and lost a bunch of customers. I don't know what the >>>> outcome was but there was no rule yet in place that they had to share >>>> their fiber lines too. So it was a grey area. I wonder if they are >>>> trying to exempt themselves from a whole slew of things in certain areas. >>>> >>>> Anyway >>>> >>>> Does the FCC have any sort of provision for something similar? >>>> >>>> Have any of you used this before? >>>> >>>> Their notice was pretty vague. I'm going to see if I can find the filing. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> Keeping you informed. >>>> >>>> >>>> As you may know, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications >>>> Commission (CRTC) regulates the terms and conditions of the local services >>>> that Bell provides you. This limits our flexibility to provide you the >>>> types of competitive offers we’d like. That may all change in your area in >>>> the coming months. >>>> >>>> On August 26, 2016, Bell filed an application to the CRTC to have certain >>>> local services “forborne” from regulation. If our request is approved, >>>> local telecommunication services Bell offers you will be forborne or >>>> deregulated by the CRTC. You will continue to receive the quality services >>>> you have come to expect from Bell, under our Terms of Service, which were >>>> previously provided to you. You will find a copy at www.bell.ca/terms. >>>> The Terms of Service will apply to your newly unregulated >>>> local services from the date the CRTC issues an order approving the >>>> forbearance application for your local exchange area. >>>> >>>> What does this mean for you? >>>> >>>> • We will be able to provide you with more exciting offers and >>>> propose more innovative services. >>>> • We will continue to provide services on the basis of the Terms >>>> of Service. >>>> • As a Bell customer, you will be kept informed if the >>>> application for forbearance is approved. >>> >> >
