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On 10/6/2016 8:22 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Big decision for us Canadians today who utilize wholesale access
networks a lot … (besides our own infrastructure)
http://www.bnn.ca/crtc-slashes-wholesale-fees-charged-by-incumbent-isps-in-bid-to-stay-competitive-1.580977
Great news!
Paul
On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org
<mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote:
This is definately having impact on third party providers (TPIA as
referenced)..
Bell has been told that they must provide mandated access to these
fiber networks as part of a ruling fairly recently … along with the
access being opened up, there are separate hearings on disaggregation
of wholesale access as well (which has significant pros/cons all in one)
Forborne basically means no tariffs if I understand correctly … I’m
obviously not a telecom lawyer or pretend to be one :) It doesn’t
mean that they won’t provide wholesale access to those facilities and
one might argue that it doesn’t mean they will neither …
There’s a number of different proceedings around this ongoing - I
find it hard to follow all of them but if you know the CRTC file
number happy to provide some additional insight/opinion
Paul
On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org
<mailto:li...@wavedirect.org>> wrote:
Locally seeing these notices popping up from Bell. So they are
requesting to be exempt from the rules the CRTC has set forth. This
would be equivalent to you going to the FCC and saying "your rules
don't apply to us and I want you to recognize that in these
particular areas". Is my understanding correct?
Sounds like:
A) They want permission to undercut prices in certain areas.
B) To be exempt from other tariffs and specifically excluding people
from using their lines.
C) Do they want to be allowed to throttle services?
Locally there has been an area they put fiber in, and terminated
their dsl lined which left TPIA people high and dry. Tekksavvy etc
could no longer provide service and lost a bunch of customers. I
don't know what the outcome was but there was no rule yet in place
that they had to share their fiber lines too. So it was a grey
area. I wonder if they are trying to exempt themselves from a whole
slew of things in certain areas.
Anyway
Does the FCC have any sort of provision for something similar?
Have any of you used this before?
Their notice was pretty vague. I'm going to see if I can find the
filing.
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Keeping you informed.
As you may know, the Canadian Radio-television and
Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) regulates the terms and
conditions of the local services that Bell provides you. This limits
our flexibility to provide you the types of competitive offers we’d
like. That may all change in your area in the coming months.
On August 26, 2016, Bell filed an application to the CRTC to have
certain local services “forborne” from regulation. If our request is
approved, local telecommunication services Bell offers you will be
forborne or deregulated by the CRTC. You will continue to receive
the quality services you have come to expect from Bell, under our
Terms of Service, which were previously provided to you. You will
find a copy at www.bell.ca/terms <http://www.bell.ca/terms>. The
Terms of Service will apply to your newly unregulated local services
from the date the CRTC issues an order approving the forbearance
application for your local exchange area.
What does this mean for you?
• We will be able to provide you with more exciting offers and
propose more innovative services.
• We will continue to provide services on the basis of the Terms of
Service.
• As a Bell customer, you will be kept informed if the application
for forbearance is approved.