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On Oct 6, 2016 2:34 PM, "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, I much prefer coding to making physical things. I like the ability > to experiment, with the only materials wasted being time and coffee. The > only part I don't like is the tedium of creating all the boring parts, but > I've already built a lot of tools to build forms, tables, and graphs > automatically, so I can just focus on the interesting parts. > > On 10/6/2016 1:31 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Something satisfying about being in the “zone” when coding. > You have your long list of features and bugs. Crossing them off all day > long. > The hours fly by and you have a nice sense of satisfaction of building > something. > Day turns to night and you make yourself stop when you can no longer focus > on the screen. > > *From:* Simon Westlake > *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:17 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Not anymore, the sad truth is I spend about 18 hours a day coding right > now. Still got a lot to do! > > On 10/6/2016 1:13 PM, Steve wrote: > > Oh admit it.. you spend half your day on Reddit. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Westlake" mailto:[email protected] > To: "af" mailto:[email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:36:47 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain > some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop > about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start > talking to some humans rather than my cat.. > > On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about > config. > I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing chatting > on this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man! > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some > solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools. > They'll send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty > easy to see if it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one > a shot and I can set it up for you. > > On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people > who's monthly usage exceeds 600GB. > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like > linking together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then > tying them to subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem > with torrenters is that some portion of them are smart enough to > use a VPN, which leaves you with little recourse. But you're > probably not getting any DMCA complaints about them anyway.. > > On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > That's good to know. > Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic? > I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of > the mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work > (anymore?) and the ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. > I don't know if it's a $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep > getting asked about. > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying > list on most of the licensing, and they won't support the > hardware if it fails. They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so > as well (it's still supported for a while afterwards, but that's > the typical cycle,) so you generally want to be buying a newer > chassis. > > Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a > bigger chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense. > > On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with > Barracuda or Procera or both. > Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support > contract/license for it? > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:[email protected] > To: mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > > You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one > company, sell it to another company and then they get a new > license. Basically, if I bought Gino's unit, I would have to > pay him and he would pay Barracuda. > > Rory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them? > Just curious … or is it that their license is non transferable > same as some other companies (ie. Cisco) > > > On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > And they won't let you transfer it to another company either. > > Rory > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM > To: af > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we > decommissioned and they charged us pretty much the full price > as if it were brand new. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rory Conawaymailto:[email protected]:af"; mailto:[email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would > be talking. > > Rory > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino > Villarini > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details... > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway > mailto:[email protected]:[email protected] wrote: > That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig. > > Rory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af > [mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Steve > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM > To: af > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum > to start. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:[email protected]:[email protected] > To: "af" mailto:[email protected]:[email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there > recurring costs? > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_SonarEmail:[email protected] > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software/ > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_SonarEmail:[email protected] > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software/ > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_SonarEmail:[email protected] > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: [email protected] > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: [email protected] > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > >
