Really I'll be interested in checking it out. Been hoping there would be more network related stuff. It used to be dominated by all wireless vendors. Glad to see some network and software vendors showing up the last couple years.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:41:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs Seisei will be at the show. On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote: > Anybody used these guys I know they have gone to a few shows. > > http://saisei.com/ > > > > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> > wrote: > >> You've discovered my secret identity >> >> On 10/6/2016 12:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> Wait, is this you? >> >> https://simonscat.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Simon Westlake >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain >> some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop >> about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start talking >> to some humans rather than my cat.. >> >> On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about >> config. >> I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing chatting on >> this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some >> solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools. They'll >> send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty easy to see if >> it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one a shot and I can set >> it up for you. >> >> On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people who's >> monthly usage exceeds 600GB. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like linking >> together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then tying them to >> subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem with torrenters is that >> some portion of them are smart enough to use a VPN, which leaves you with >> little recourse. But you're probably not getting any DMCA complaints about >> them anyway.. >> >> On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> That's good to know. >> >> Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic? >> >> >> >> I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of the >> mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work (anymore?) and the >> ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. I don't know if it's a >> $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep getting asked about. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying list on >> most of the licensing, and they won't support the hardware if it fails. >> They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so as well (it's still supported for >> a while afterwards, but that's the typical cycle,) so you generally want to >> be buying a newer chassis. >> >> Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a bigger >> chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense. >> >> On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with Barracuda >> or Procera or both. >> Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support >> contract/license for it? >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net >> <r...@triadwireless.net> >> To: mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one company, sell it >> to another company and then they get a new license. Basically, if I bought >> Gino's unit, I would have to pay him and he would pay Barracuda. >> >> Rory >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf >> Of Paul Stewart >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them? Just >> curious … or is it that their license is non transferable same as some >> other companies (ie. Cisco) >> >> >> On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net >> <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >> >> And they won't let you transfer it to another company either. >> >> Rory >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf >> Of Steve >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM >> To: af >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we decommissioned and they >> charged us pretty much the full price as if it were brand new. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net >> <r...@triadwireless.net> >> To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would be talking. >> >> Rory >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf >> Of Gino Villarini >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM >> To: Animal Farm >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details... >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net >> mailto:r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: >> That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig. >> >> Rory >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>ma >> ilto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Steve >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM >> To: af >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum to start. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoffett@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <dmmoff...@gmail.com>> >> To: "af" <af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM >> Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there recurring costs? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software/ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software/ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software >> >> >> -- >> Simon Westlake >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> --------------------------- >> Sonar Software Inc >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software >> >> >
