I would prefer a single payer program.
A few years before I am on Medicare, after that who cares as long as I get
mine....
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
Perhaps that's more to do with Utah? IDK. The way that it was implemented was
not the same from state to state. Those that embraced it fully had fewer issues.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/10/2016 9:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am involved in multiple companies with about 100 employees totally
involved. Some of them are part time, some work for companies that are small
and nobody has coverage. We have attempted to help employees sign up for ACA.
The process is so convoluted that most of them give up. One of them is a
degreed electrical engineer with a professional engineering license. He gave
up the first time. Turns out to be affordable for the low income folks, the
deductible is so high to be worthless. So they take the fine instead. It
simply does not work. The less literate someone is, the greater the problem.
In Utah I think we only have one provider left.
It has been a failure.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
I don't agree with either of those statements. The trumpster lies because of
ignorance. Maybe that's not quite lying, but perhaps just stupidity. Oh yeah.
Let's get a stupid president. Hell, I've witnessed him telling one lie in the
subject of a statement, and a practically opposite lie in the predicate. His
attention span is too short to remember where he started.
And if the ACA has helped "no one", what do you call the 22,000,000 people
with coverage today?
A lot of negative press has been written about the ACA, but I haven't heard
one, not one, proposal on how to make it better. Who's fault is that?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/10/2016 8:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is a matter of the quality of the lies. Trump lies about himself, his
worth, his accomplishments etc. All driven by his meglomania.
Bill and Hillary are part of an evil global conglomerate. I am willing to
bet they have knocked off 500% more of their enemies than Trump has.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
There is also the small matter of the 70-something law suits (currently)
filed against the trumpster. The guy is a bigger criminal than the Clintons or
the Bushes combined. He also lies a verified 500% more than Clinton, but
everyone chooses to ignore all of that.
Finding lies in the trumpster's statements is a target rich environment.
Plus the guy only cares about himself. The guy we see today is nothing more
than a narcissist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism).
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/10/2016 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
From: Rory Conaway
I’ll bite.
1) Climate change has scientists on both sides of the argument, both
with very good evidence behind them. The next question is whether it’s man
caused which it partially is, but to what extend.
Pollution bad, irrespective of climate.
2) It’s clear that Hillary and Obama’s policies have been a massive
failure so it’s time to do something different.
Obama launched more drones with bombs than anyone in the history of the
universe. Hard to tell if this has been good or bad for us. Will Trump launch
them like Obama? Time will tell. Have we had more attacks on our homeland
with Obama in office? Nothing big and coordinated like 9/11, that is for
certain. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
3) He didn’t win because of fear, he won because the Globalists, the
corrupt, and the anti-American attitude in Washington divided this country and
were selling out and destroying our core values. In addition, they were
bankrupting the country at the same time. Liberals attacked everyone who
didn’t like their policies and half the country said enough was enough.
I think he won because half the country could not stand the thought of
listening to her voice for 4 years. Kinda like mars attacks. I was going to
get a recording of “Indian Love Call” for protection.
4) Hillary is a lying criminal, Bill a rapist and sexual predator,
and you think Trump has character problems.
Trump does have character problems. He has no filter, he has no sense of
decorum or diplomacy. He is a megalomaniac. So he doesn’t have good optics.
So what... at least he is new and disruptive. This could prove to be fun. As
for Bill and Hillary, Nixon did bad things too, lots of them did.
5) Obama is a whole different story. That guy has lied from the day
he took office to his most recent lies about not knowing about Hillary’s
server.
We will never know if the Obama administration prevented another 9/11
attack or not. I am guessing he was effective. All upper echelon politicians
lie. The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or science... Has
no foreign policy plan... Sound bites don't cut it... He won because of fear by
biligaana, period. Country is very divided because he fueled these fears...
Someone in class yesterday said we should respect him.... Another guy
responded, Really the way he and others showed respect for Obama...
I can't respect him for his lack of character... I have stated it
clearly..
How ridiculous can he be when his staff cut his tweeter account days
before election? Heaven help us when he is charge... I noticed no one
answered or challenged me about leaving him alone with your wife or
daughters.... The silence was defeaning... And the public works idea... Who the
hell is doing all that work right now? Open your eyes, visit construction
sites around the southwest and even Las Vegas... Go to job sites.... Facts not
bullshit
On Nov 10, 2016 8:00 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that
statement into question.
On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Clinton said we can support
600,000 syrian refugees today. Thats 6 percent today of the undocumented
population we could migrate into citizens...today
