From: Bill Prince
I'll say right now that the wall will not be built.
Strike one.
Waste of money and impractical. Why not give New Mexico and Texas back to
Mexico and tell all the illegals to move there.... ;-)
(I just don’t see it being a solution).
Dismantle ACA. Well, maybe, but what are they going to tell the 22,000,000
people that are getting health insurance that wouldn't otherwise? What are they
going to do about pre-existing conditions? I bet they might do something
"different", but a wholesale dismantling I think will not happen.
ACA is dismantling itself. Insurers are dropping health coverage from the
product line. My own low income kids and employees were not helped by ACA.
Nobody was helped by the ACA. But that was predicted from the beginning. You
cannot force an industry that gambles based on actuarial science to take high
risk guaranteed looser customers and not respond. Bill Clinton even called it
a disaster a few months ago. It is a disaster.
Strike two.
Restore the coal industries and all the jobs associated with it. Not going to
happen. Coal is on a downward spiral regardless of any toothless proclamations.
We have lots of coal in Utah. It keeps getting cleaner and cleaner. Plus you
need it for steel. We do still make steel in this country. Hillary was vowing
to kill the industry completely. Anybody want their electricity bills to
double? Focus on improving the coal combustion process. Killing jobs == not
good.
Strike three.
Restore jobs to the rust belt and bring jobs back into the US. See above. No
proclamations by the ivory tower is going to change the economics of those
businesses. You tell me what a president can do to change this. I don't see any
changes coming.
All politicians spout this kind of crap. They need to fix the rust belt with
education. This is going to take a few generations.
Strike four.
Impose tariffs with China. Oh please. All the stuff all the lower income folks
buy in Walmart come from China. How are they going to like the massive increase
in prices that would entail? Further, China would likely retaliate, and then
our exports would go down as well. Yeah, that's a winning strategy.
+1, this would be a total disaster. Almost all electronic components come from
China.
Strike five.
I could go on and on. This next four years is going to be worse than the
previous 16.
bp
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On 11/10/2016 8:17 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote:
Defend their country? With syria this is complicated. Depending on where you
live and what your religion is you are on one of the many sides. Many died
without the knowledge what side killed them.
Our wall was there for a long time. Language was the same but … To bring the
eastern back online was *very* expensive and it is still not done.
A wall seperate humans. In Europe you travel without walls. I drive through
austria to italy only stopped by these guys who want money for travelling over
their roads. A spain could come to us and work. A lot of Bulgarian work in
other european countries. The income in bulgarian is comparable to mexicans.
Germany always pay money for Europe. Eastern countries get money until they
close up. You should see how and where e.g. VW produces cars and parts. But
they also sell into these countries.
On the long run it makes sense to partner with your neighbors. Even if you
think your neighbor has the bigger benefit.
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
I dont understand it, we built a boatload of ebola camps in africa that are
unused, why not stage the refugees there while theyre vetted. 99 percent of
them are good folks, they need to get out of the warzone. Men of fighting age
should be the lowest priority for resettlement since theyre choosing not to
defend their country, you cant really blame them since they dont have the
resources to do so though.
germany had a wall that isolated its citizens from one another, quite a
difference between that and a border wall.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
We got 1,000,0000 refugees within 12 month. As you know germany is a lot
smaller than US... A refugee is not neccesary there to stay forever. You help
him to stay alive and as his country comes back to "normal" you ask him to go
back.
You should look at the situation of these people and consider yourself and
your family in this situation.
Best would be to help neighbor countries to be able to help, so people do
not need to travel this far (and it is a lot cheaper to help). In fact there
are a lot of syrian in neighbor countries which need help themselfes.
But sorry your president will bomb someone to hell and build walls
(remember we are happy our wall was teared down not so long ago). Did not hear
"humanity" out of his mouth. But yes. America first. Very selfish. We had the
same discussions with England. They do not like refugees, too. They dont like
to be in Europe. They want to stay on their own.
Is this where we all are heading to. Selfish countries which do not like
the others and let them alone?
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Sam Morris
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:00
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
>
> If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that
statement into
> question.
>
> On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> > Clinton said we can support
> > 600,000 syrian refugees today. Thats 6 percent today of the
> > undocumented population we could migrate into citizens...today
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