I'll say right now that the wall will not be built. Oh maybe they will put up a piece of it, but when it comes to funding the amount of money it would take, I'm betting that they will back off that one. Strike one. Dismantle ACA. Well, maybe, but what are they going to tell the 22,000,000 people that are getting health insurance that wouldn't otherwise? What are they going to do about pre-existing conditions? I bet they might do something "different", but a wholesale dismantling I think will not happen. Strike two. Restore the coal industries and all the jobs associated with it. Not going to happen. Coal is on a downward spiral regardless of any toothless proclamations. Strike three. Restore jobs to the rust belt and bring jobs back into the US. See above. No proclamations by the ivory tower is going to change the economics of those businesses. You tell me what a president can do bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/10/2016 8:17 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: #yiv1509499475 #yiv1509499475 -- _filtered #yiv1509499475 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1509499475 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1509499475 {font-family:Consolas;panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1509499475 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv1509499475 #yiv1509499475 p.yiv1509499475MsoNormal, #yiv1509499475 li.yiv1509499475MsoNormal, #yiv1509499475 div.yiv1509499475MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1509499475 a:link, #yiv1509499475 span.yiv1509499475MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1509499475 a:visited, #yiv1509499475 span.yiv1509499475MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1509499475 p.yiv1509499475msonormal0, #yiv1509499475 li.yiv1509499475msonormal0, #yiv1509499475 div.yiv1509499475msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1509499475 span.yiv1509499475E-MailFormatvorlage18 {color:windowtext;}#yiv1509499475 .yiv1509499475MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv1509499475 {margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;}#yiv1509499475 div.yiv1509499475WordSection1 {}#yiv1509499475 Defend their country? With syria this is complicated. Depending on where you live and what your religion is you are on one of the many sides. Many died without the knowledge what side killed them. Our wall was there for a long time. Language was the same but … To bring the eastern back online was *very* expensive and it is still not done. A wall seperate humans. In Europe you travel without walls. I drive through austria to italy only stopped by these guys who want money for travelling over their roads. A spain could come to us and work. A lot of Bulgarian work in other european countries. The income in bulgarian is comparable to mexicans. Germany always pay money for Europe. Eastern countries get money until they close up. You should see how and where e.g. VW produces cars and parts. But they also sell into these countries. On the long run it makes sense to partner with your neighbors. Even if you think your neighbor has the bigger benefit. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I dont understand it, we built a boatload of ebola camps in africa that are unused, why not stage the refugees there while theyre vetted. 99 percent of them are good folks, they need to get out of the warzone. Men of fighting age should be the lowest priority for resettlement since theyre choosing not to defend their country, you cant really blame them since they dont have the resources to do so though. germany had a wall that isolated its citizens from one another, quite a difference between that and a border wall. On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: We got 1,000,0000 refugees within 12 month. As you know germany is a lot smaller than US... A refugee is not neccesary there to stay forever. You help him to stay alive and as his country comes back to "normal" you ask him to go back. You should look at the situation of these people and consider yourself and your family in this situation. Best would be to help neighbor countries to be able to help, so people do not need to travel this far (and it is a lot cheaper to help). In fact there are a lot of syrian in neighbor countries which need help themselfes. But sorry your president will bomb someone to hell and build walls (remember we are happy our wall was teared down not so long ago). Did not hear "humanity" out of his mouth. But yes. America first. Very selfish. We had the same discussions with England. They do not like refugees, too. They dont like to be in Europe. They want to stay on their own. Is this where we all are heading to. Selfish countries which do not like the others and let them alone? > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Sam Morris > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:00 > An: af@afmug.com > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics > > If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that statement > into > question. > > On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > > Clinton said we can support > > 600,000 syrian refugees today. Thats 6 percent today of the > > undocumented population we could migrate into citizens...today -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.