"My rhetoric" is the historical documentation of hard numbers from roughly
the mid century of this country that has documented then continued and
rapid downfall of the average person's buying power. Its not up for debate,
these are hard numbers that span both political parties.

Why are you white knighting being assraped? Stockholm syndrome?

On Nov 10, 2016 5:48 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> the last 8 are a reference point, you referenced the last 5, those 5 were
> solely encompassed within the last two election cycles, but please,
> continue your rhetoric.
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Last 8 years? You haven't done your homework on this issue at all, but
>> you're talking like one of those snake oil salesman. You have bought into
>> the rhetoric hook line and sinker.
>>
>> Wages on a $30,000 year salary have increased $368something dollars since
>> 1967. Given inflation, the same salary today would be over $120,000 a year.
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2016 5:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, that should tell you something about the economy over the last 8
>>> years, who benefited?
>>>
>>> I get a kick out of all these financial "experts" saying trumps agenda
>>> will cause a percentage loss, blah blah blah blah. If they are experts
>>> other than just having been present, and know finance to the degree theyre
>>> given faith, wouldnt it be safe to say that they would have fixed the
>>> economic woes by now? more of the same, because its the same and focused on
>>> continuing down a path where the wealth gap grows by 10% in 5 years is the
>>> true example of the definition of insanity.
>>>
>>> Those experts, like doctors of the 1500s, are only experts because they
>>> have the bag, theyre really just snake oil salesman. Id prefer to go with a
>>> guy who turned 1 million into 10 billion, or even six, and has employed
>>> tens of thousands of people over some guys with MBAs who have yet to solve
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> If he benefits, who gives a shit? As it is the "elite" benefit, status
>>> quo, if the rest have an opportunity at a taste, let them have it, if it
>>> turns out trump only benefits trump, then whats different then from last
>>> week?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Except the top 0.1% are who he's used to dealing with, and they have
>>>> the most wealth.
>>>>
>>>> As of 2012, 400 families in America have over half the nation's wealth.
>>>> If you look at the top 20% of earners, that's over 80% of the entire
>>>> country's wealth. This is almost 5 year old data, projections show that in
>>>> 2018, the top 20% will have over 90% of the country's wealth.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 5:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> lol, a robust economy and wealthier Americans would benefit him much
>>>>> more than any individual deal or group of deals, he makes his money off
>>>>> other peoples money, the best way to ensure that happens is to ensure 
>>>>> those
>>>>> people have access to wealth.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything. I mean EVERYTHING is transactional to him. He is always
>>>>>> looking to see how HE will benefit, to heck with anyone else. I do not 
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> how that will change. We will soon see after his first major argument in
>>>>>> January, February, or March.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm betting that he will devolve into insults and innuendo soon
>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be interesting to see the evolution.  You know he loves the attention
>>>>>> and folks sucking up to him.  Can’t think of a better job for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:49 PM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think he would pass up deals of personal relevance though?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:47 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Trump is more immune to influence buying sweetheart deals
>>>>>>> than any other president we have had.  He truly has “f*ck you” money 
>>>>>>> and is
>>>>>>> not beholden to the party.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Jon Langeler
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:40 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you have a non-politician that wins the office, and with a
>>>>>>> budget that's less than half of the Democratic Party, these things are
>>>>>>> further developed AFTER the win. That concept itself is a good thing! 
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> problem with career politicians is they learn 'the system'. And before 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> know it, they all do about the same thing. Nothing changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon Langeler
>>>>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't agree with either of those statements. The trumpster lies
>>>>>>> because of ignorance. Maybe that's not quite lying, but perhaps just
>>>>>>> stupidity. Oh yeah. Let's get a stupid president. Hell, I've witnessed 
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>> telling one lie in the subject of a statement, and a practically 
>>>>>>> opposite
>>>>>>> lie in the predicate. His attention span is too short to remember where 
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if the ACA has helped "no one", what do you call the 22,000,000
>>>>>>> people with coverage today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of negative press has been written about the ACA, but I
>>>>>>> haven't heard one, not one, proposal on how to make it better. Who's 
>>>>>>> fault
>>>>>>> is that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 8:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a matter of the quality of the lies.  Trump lies about
>>>>>>> himself, his worth, his accomplishments etc.  All driven by his 
>>>>>>> meglomania.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill and Hillary are part of an evil global conglomerate.  I am
>>>>>>> willing to bet they have knocked off 500% more of their enemies than 
>>>>>>> Trump
>>>>>>> has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:37 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is also the small matter of the 70-something law suits
>>>>>>> (currently) filed against the trumpster. The guy is a bigger criminal 
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> the Clintons or the Bushes combined. He also lies a verified 500% more 
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> Clinton, but everyone chooses to ignore all of that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finding lies in the trumpster's statements is a target rich
>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plus the guy only cares about himself. The guy we see today is
>>>>>>> nothing more than a narcissist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
>>>>>>> /Narcissism).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Rory Conaway
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ll bite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1)      Climate change has scientists on both sides of the
>>>>>>> argument, both with very good evidence behind them.  The next question 
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> whether it’s man caused which it partially is, but to what extend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pollution bad, irrespective of climate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2)     It’s clear that Hillary and Obama’s policies have been a
>>>>>>> massive failure so it’s time to do something different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama launched more drones with bombs than anyone in the history of
>>>>>>> the universe.  Hard to tell if this has been good or bad for us.  Will
>>>>>>> Trump launch them like Obama?  Time will tell.  Have we had more 
>>>>>>> attacks on
>>>>>>> our homeland with Obama in office?  Nothing big and coordinated like 
>>>>>>> 9/11,
>>>>>>> that is for certain.  Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3)      He didn’t win because of fear, he won because the
>>>>>>> Globalists, the corrupt, and the anti-American attitude in Washington
>>>>>>> divided this country and were selling out and destroying our core 
>>>>>>> values.
>>>>>>> In addition, they were bankrupting the country at the same time.   
>>>>>>> Liberals
>>>>>>> attacked everyone who didn’t like their policies and half the country 
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> enough was enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think he won because half the country could not stand the thought
>>>>>>> of listening to her voice for 4 years.  Kinda like mars attacks.  I was
>>>>>>> going to get a recording of “Indian Love Call” for protection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4)      Hillary is a lying criminal, Bill a rapist and sexual
>>>>>>> predator, and you think Trump has character problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump does have character problems.  He has no filter, he has no
>>>>>>> sense of decorum or diplomacy.  He is a megalomaniac.  So he doesn’t 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> good optics.  So what... at least he is new and disruptive.  This could
>>>>>>> prove to be fun.  As for Bill and Hillary, Nixon did bad things too, 
>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>> of them did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5)      Obama is a whole different story.  That guy has lied from
>>>>>>> the day he took office to his most recent lies about not knowing about
>>>>>>> Hillary’s server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will never know if the Obama administration prevented another
>>>>>>> 9/11 attack or not.  I am guessing he was effective.  All upper echelon
>>>>>>> politicians lie.  The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime
>>>>>>> Solorza
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or
>>>>>>> science... Has no foreign policy plan... Sound bites don't cut it... He 
>>>>>>> won
>>>>>>> because of fear by biligaana, period.  Country is very divided because 
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> fueled these fears...
>>>>>>> Someone in class yesterday said we should respect him.... Another
>>>>>>> guy responded, Really the way he and others showed respect for Obama...
>>>>>>> I can't respect him for his lack of character... I have stated it
>>>>>>> clearly..
>>>>>>> How ridiculous can he be when his staff cut his tweeter account days
>>>>>>> before election?   Heaven help us when he is charge... I noticed no one
>>>>>>> answered or challenged me about leaving him alone with your wife or
>>>>>>> daughters.... The silence was defeaning... And the public works idea... 
>>>>>>> Who
>>>>>>> the hell is doing all that work right now?   Open your eyes,  visit
>>>>>>> construction sites around the southwest and even Las Vegas... Go to job
>>>>>>> sites.... Facts not bullshit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 8:00 AM, "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that
>>>>>>> statement into question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clinton said we can support
>>>>>>> 600,000 syrian refugees today. Thats 6 percent today of the
>>>>>>> undocumented
>>>>>>> population we could migrate into citizens...today
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

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