Rocket GPS or Rocket Ti? I never had GPS problems with Ti. I did have other 
problems, but not GPS ones. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:47:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 

If they can do 2.5ms frame duration and allow us to fine tune tx/rx start/stop, 
then I'm sure it would be possible to sync with other stuff. 

ePMP on the other hand still needs some of the same knobs. It doesn't exactly 
sync with the 450. Plus you can't do 2.5ms on 10MHz channel width. And I still 
want to see 30MHz channel width support. 

ePMP Elevate software on GPS Rockets is almost pointless. The few GPS Rockets 
we deployed sucked balls. They would constantly lose GPS lock for days at a 
time. Rebooting or power-cycling didn't help. Plus no sync over power. So I'd 
rather just deploy ePMP hardware for the AP/BH anyway. 

We don't have much UBNT PTMP left except for the M365 shit which we're still 
ripping out left and right. But for an operator with lots of deployed M CPEs, 
Elevate makes sense for a fast conversion. 


On 11/30/2016 1:45 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: 


Real-deal sync! The real trick will be them syncing with 450's! :-0 


On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 

<blockquote>

ptp sync and ptmp sync are two totally different animals 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 

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its not out yet so we will see, but I would assume it works flawless once it 
gets here because it works fine on airfiber PTP and its based on the same 
platform 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 

<blockquote>

does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just sync 
like titanium had sync? 








On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



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Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping prices low 
that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the Airfiber PTMP 
comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price with the 450 line 
which is sucking my wallet dry everyday. 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 

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the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now jesus is 
cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson < li...@mtin.net > wrote: 



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http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442 
Some Cliff Notes 








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On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess < dmburg...@linktechs.net > wrote: 



Someone want to write up the entire thing? What it is etc? how it works vs 
having us all listen to a webinar :? 


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From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve D 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM 
To: af < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI? 



Learn something new everyday. :p 



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On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 
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There are probably hardware filters on the RF side. 
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 
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so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be downconverted 
5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If thats the case 
could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I assume the 
downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally would make a 
very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp in one 
move 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 
<blockquote>



25% is what I remember. 





------ Original Message ------ 

From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



<blockquote>

That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard. 



On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > wrote: 
<blockquote>


If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making more 
money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 
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This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good" 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 


<blockquote>


This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then... 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 
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ePMP Elevate Compatibility 

check the Release Notes for complete details 

    * Loco M5 XW 
    * Loco M5 XM 
    * NanoStation M5 XW 
    * NanoStation M5 XM 
    * NanoBridge M5 XM 
    * Rocket M5 XM 
    * Rocket M5 XW 
    * Powerbeam M5 XW 
    * Airgrid M5HP XW 
    * Airgrid M5 XM 
    * NanoBeam M5 XW 
ePMP Elevate Developments 
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE 


    * XM + XW model 
    * Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016 
RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017 


    * MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
    * RB911G5HPnDQRT 
    * RBSXT5nDr2 
    * RB912UAG5HPnDOT 
2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017 







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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt < s...@genias.net > wrote: 
<blockquote>



Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-)) 





Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works. From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver. 






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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 
<blockquote>

Mikrotik? 





On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 
<blockquote>


we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by shutting 
off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this might give 
us a better window 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 
<blockquote>



Compatible doesn't mean "same". Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with an 
Intel Core isn't it? 



Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n. 







------ Original Message ------ 

From: "Stefan Englhardt" < s...@genias.net > 

To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



<blockquote>


They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW. 





Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 


you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 
<blockquote>


im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak < jno...@lrcomm.com > wrote: 
<blockquote>


I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/ 



Very interesting indeed... very interesting. 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat < tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com > 
wrote: 
<blockquote>



This ought to shake things up a bit. 

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/ 


        

        

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