There are non-professional players raking in these kind of donations as well. They’re genuinely entertaining people and some of their viewers are genuinely filthy rich.
Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch How is $10,000 to a person not even on a team linked with betting? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there is on Regions, Worlds, and AllStars tourneys, but during a regular game? I just can't see it. On Dec 5, 2016 12:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: That tells me there is betting involved. Have you seen the movie Rat Race, with the rich guys who’ll bet on anything? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch I've seen twitch users have $10,000 from a single donation. These are high level League of Legends streamers. On Dec 5, 2016 11:42 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: I don't know the appeal or logic behind it, but a Twitch user will get subscribers. A viewer spends $5/mo to sponsor them. I believe the Twitch broadcaster gets 3 of that. Decently popular ones get 500-1000 subs which is $1500 to $3000 a month (18-36k/year). Their only cost is a good computer, some gaming stuff, and some sort of appeal. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org<mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote: hehe.. oh I like that idea! ;) On Dec 5, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote: This is why your customers ask for big pipes. You have to understand your customers. So this time is dedicated to „customer relationship“ ;-). Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Paul Stewart Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:47 An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch I’ve asked Mrs. Clause to get me one for Christmas.. I love new tech… My problem, and of course i’m not alone, is I don’t really have much time to sit down and play games …. I enjoy them though …. On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote: As a technic enthusiast I am very impressed what Sony does with their PS VR. It is not like 3d movie in theater it is a whole new experience. Just dive into Rush of Blood and you are flashed. Like Apple they bring a new technic in a way people like it. The headset is very well built and the cabling is explained in a way everyone is able to do it. This is something like the iPad1 you should have. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:26 An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch I enjoy them and used to enjoy spending lots of time at it (40+ hours per week), I simply haven't had the time for it in years. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 6:40:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch I enjoy video games, but I prohibit my self from playing them since they're an absolutely terrific waste of time. On Sunday, December 4, 2016, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: My life will not be diminished whether I get it or not. I feel fulfilled without any video games in my life (either me or someone else playing them). bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/4/2016 10:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Think about it this way: it's the first "sport" that has international reach outside of soccer. It already has more exposure than baseball, football, etc. The only thing it doesn't come close to is FIFA World Cup viewership (3.2 Billion in 2014). The barrier to viewership is that it only requires internet access to YouTube/Twitch - it's viewership growth does not require some expensive/exclusive sports Cable package. Baseball, football, boxing, car racing (largely) etc are all slowly and painfully dying off. The growth is in MMA and eSports. Although you "don't get it" (I don't either, largely), the rest of the world does. Ignore that at your peril :P On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: Despite the amazing popularity, it still does not draw me. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/4/2016 9:47 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Just to put things into perspective, League of Legends is currently the largest competitive scene. The 2015 championships, which was a multi-day multi-city bracketed event held in several countries, had over 334 million viewers (not counting multiple people watching the same stream). The final numbers on the 2016 event aren't in yet. Colleges are giving out scholarships for this (no joke). These events sell out places like the Staples center, and world cup stadiums. Madison Square Garden may be next year. On Dec 4, 2016 11:40 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote: Fun, fame, and profit. Some of these YouTube streamers bring in over 150k a year in advertising revenue. Most of these are young kids (preteen), some actually teenagers. Twitch streamers can bring in several hundreds of thousands a year in stream donations. My oldest (17/m) doesn't watch traditional TV. He's unfamiliar, largely, with commercials. Sports on TV? No way. He watches Hulu, Netflix, but mainly YouTube/twitch. There's a new eSports bar going up here in KC. I bet they end up with more net profit in the first year than the local Buffalo Wild Wings. Mix of bar w/ pub food, TVs streaming games/championships, and actual PCs/gaming (half-hourly charges). On Dec 4, 2016 10:39 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: I was born without the gaming gene, so can someone explain Twitch to me? I have a customer spending a lot of money (now that harvest is over) for a speed tier with 5 Mbps of upstream so he can broadcast. Which I see he does for 12 hours straight. What is the appeal? Fun? Fame? Or profit? Does this bring in advertising money? Enough to make it worthwhile? And how does someone stream their game play for 12 hours straight? Astronaut diapers? Lots of Mountain Dew and Doritos? Or do they get breaks?
