Im going to start streaming myself playing fallout in my uderdrawers with a bottle of Jameson, so i wont be active on this list for a while guys, next time you see my i will be buying your companies with my twitch donations. Its going to be a lonely list when i am owning your wisps, ill have to talk to you guys in my twitch chat for advice on eirps and good antennas
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > There's nothing to bet on on a regular game though, not really. > > There's simply a lot of trust fund kids out there with wayyyy too much of > mommy and daddy's money. > > Shit some of these people getting large donations on twitch don't even > play competitive games at all - sometimes they're just sitting there > bullshitting when a whale drops a chunk of change to them. > > On Dec 5, 2016 1:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> You don’t think there could be private betting on live streamed eSports? >> >> >> >> Otherwise, I can’t understand a $10K donation. That’s like leaving a >> waitress a $10K tip. Which I guess does happen. But it seems really >> strange that a fan would appreciate your game play so much to throw $10K >> your way. I was thinking more like someone wins $1,000,000 at the >> blackjack table in Vegas and leaves the dealer a $10K tip. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 12:55 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >> >> >> >> How is $10,000 to a person not even on a team linked with betting? Don't >> get me wrong, I'm sure there is on Regions, Worlds, and AllStars tourneys, >> but during a regular game? I just can't see it. >> >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2016 12:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> That tells me there is betting involved. >> >> >> >> Have you seen the movie Rat Race, with the rich guys who’ll bet on >> anything? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 12:41 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >> >> >> >> I've seen twitch users have $10,000 from a single donation. These are >> high level League of Legends streamers. >> >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2016 11:42 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >> I don't know the appeal or logic behind it, but a Twitch user will get >> subscribers. A viewer spends $5/mo to sponsor them. I believe the Twitch >> broadcaster gets 3 of that. >> >> >> >> Decently popular ones get 500-1000 subs which is $1500 to $3000 a month >> (18-36k/year). >> >> >> >> Their only cost is a good computer, some gaming stuff, and some sort of >> appeal. >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> >> wrote: >> >> hehe.. oh I like that idea! ;) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> This is why your customers ask for big pipes. You have to understand your >> customers. So this time is dedicated to „customer relationship“ ;-). >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *Im >> Auftrag von *Paul Stewart >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:47 >> *An:* af@afmug.com >> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >> >> >> >> I’ve asked Mrs. Clause to get me one for Christmas.. I love new tech… >> >> >> >> My problem, and of course i’m not alone, is I don’t really have much time >> to sit down and play games …. I enjoy them though …. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> As a technic enthusiast I am very impressed what Sony does with their PS >> VR. It is not like 3d movie in theater it is a whole new experience. Just >> dive into Rush of Blood and you are flashed. Like Apple they bring a new >> technic in a way people like it. The headset is very well built and the >> cabling is explained in a way everyone is able to do it. This is something >> like the iPad1 you should have. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *Im >> Auftrag von *Mike Hammett >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:26 >> *An:* af@afmug.com >> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >> >> >> >> I enjoy them and used to enjoy spending lots of time at it (40+ hours per >> week), I simply haven't had the time for it in years. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, December 4, 2016 6:40:57 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >> >> I enjoy video games, but I prohibit my self from playing them since >> they're an absolutely terrific waste of time. >> >> On Sunday, December 4, 2016, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> My life will not be diminished whether I get it or not. I feel fulfilled >> without any video games in my life (either me or someone else playing them). >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 12/4/2016 10:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Think about it this way: it's the first "sport" that has international >> reach outside of soccer. It already has more exposure than baseball, >> football, etc. The only thing it doesn't come close to is FIFA World >> Cup viewership (3.2 Billion in 2014). The barrier to viewership is >> that it only requires internet access to YouTube/Twitch - it's >> viewership growth does not require some expensive/exclusive sports >> Cable package. Baseball, football, boxing, car racing (largely) etc >> are all slowly and painfully dying off. The growth is in MMA and >> eSports. >> >> Although you "don't get it" (I don't either, largely), the rest of the >> world does. Ignore that at your peril :P >> >> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Despite the amazing popularity, it still does not draw me. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 12/4/2016 9:47 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Just to put things into perspective, League of Legends is currently the >> largest competitive scene. The 2015 championships, which was a multi-day >> multi-city bracketed event held in several countries, had over 334 million >> viewers (not counting multiple people watching the same stream). The final >> numbers on the 2016 event aren't in yet. Colleges are giving out >> scholarships for this (no joke). >> >> These events sell out places like the Staples center, and world cup >> stadiums. Madison Square Garden may be next year. >> >> On Dec 4, 2016 11:40 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >> Fun, fame, and profit. >> >> Some of these YouTube streamers bring in over 150k a year in advertising >> revenue. Most of these are young kids (preteen), some actually teenagers. >> >> Twitch streamers can bring in several hundreds of thousands a year in >> stream donations. >> >> My oldest (17/m) doesn't watch traditional TV. He's unfamiliar, largely, >> with commercials. Sports on TV? No way. He watches Hulu, Netflix, but >> mainly >> YouTube/twitch. >> >> There's a new eSports bar going up here in KC. I bet they end up with more >> net profit in the first year than the local Buffalo Wild Wings. Mix of bar >> w/ pub food, TVs streaming games/championships, and actual PCs/gaming >> (half-hourly charges). >> >> On Dec 4, 2016 10:39 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> I was born without the gaming gene, so can someone explain Twitch to me? >> >> >> >> I have a customer spending a lot of money (now that harvest is over) for >> a speed tier with 5 Mbps of upstream so he can broadcast. Which I see he >> does for 12 hours straight. >> >> >> >> What is the appeal? Fun? Fame? Or profit? Does this bring in >> advertising money? Enough to make it worthwhile? >> >> >> >> And how does someone stream their game play for 12 hours straight? >> Astronaut diapers? Lots of Mountain Dew and Doritos? Or do they get >> breaks? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.