Did you read what I said to do? What's with that? 



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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:46:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 


Syncing requires everything working together. Dynamic allocation requires 
everything working as each AP sees is best. The two are at opposition. Making 
them work together likely means sacrificing so much of one or maybe both of 
them as to make them almost useless. 
In no engineer and notably ignorant but that is how I see it. 


On Sat, Dec 10, 2016, 5:30 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Why? 






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From: "Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:50:23 PM 



Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 






Seems like fool’s gold, the concept is fundamentally flawed, not just waiting 
for someone to do it right. 







From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:22 PM 







To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 








I'm not throwing vinegar. Just being an honest skeptic. ;-) bp 



<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 





On 12/10/2016 2:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
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That's fine. It's not something I'm holding my breath on, but if someone does 
it, great. 

Throwing vinegar on it won't help, though. 



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From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:19:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 
Great in theory. I'll believe it when I see it. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 12/10/2016 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
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It's system-wide. The controller is in your NOC. Perhaps one of the SDN 
technologies could manage the ratios. I'll admit that I haven't done much with 
OpenDayLight, but something like this fits into it's hype wheelhouse. 



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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:13:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 
That's OK for maybe one POP. How do you make sure the 6 POPs around you do the 
same thing? 
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 12/10/2016 2:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
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Controller knows system-wide what's up and sends out updates every so often to 
change at a certain time slot. It doesn't have to be real-time. Once a minute? 
Once every five minutes? It doesn't even need to be infinitely variable. Maybe 
there's four to eight settings that it goes among? Maybe you mark some devices 
as priority so their needs weighted more greatly, but otherwise if half the 
system is hitting contention in a given direction, move up to the next ratio at 
that next time slot. 



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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:48:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 

I suppose if you negotiate ratio on every single transmission, you could 
come up with a terribly inefficient protocol that would be synced and 
dynamic. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 2:46 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 

Synced dynamic ratio is pure fairy dust. 


bp 
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 12/10/2016 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> attempting to have a synced dynamic ratio platform, though. Hopefully 
> someone gets this some day. 





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