Seems like fool’s gold, the concept is fundamentally flawed, not just waiting for someone to do it right.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? I'm not throwing vinegar. Just being an honest skeptic. ;-) bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/10/2016 2:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: That's fine. It's not something I'm holding my breath on, but if someone does it, great. Throwing vinegar on it won't help, though. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Bill Prince" <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:19:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? Great in theory. I'll believe it when I see it. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/10/2016 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's system-wide. The controller is in your NOC. Perhaps one of the SDN technologies could manage the ratios. I'll admit that I haven't done much with OpenDayLight, but something like this fits into it's hype wheelhouse. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Bill Prince" <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:13:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? That's OK for maybe one POP. How do you make sure the 6 POPs around you do the same thing? bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/10/2016 2:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Controller knows system-wide what's up and sends out updates every so often to change at a certain time slot. It doesn't have to be real-time. Once a minute? Once every five minutes? It doesn't even need to be infinitely variable. Maybe there's four to eight settings that it goes among? Maybe you mark some devices as priority so their needs weighted more greatly, but otherwise if half the system is hitting contention in a given direction, move up to the next ratio at that next time slot. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Chuck McCown" <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:48:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? I suppose if you negotiate ratio on every single transmission, you could come up with a terribly inefficient protocol that would be synced and dynamic. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 2:46 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? Synced dynamic ratio is pure fairy dust. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/10/2016 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > attempting to have a synced dynamic ratio platform, though. Hopefully > someone gets this some day.